From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:55:19 -0800 Message-ID: References: <200512110340.jBB3eAh22339@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134328452 4280 80.91.229.2 (11 Dec 2005 19:14:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 11 20:14:11 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElWcc-0000HC-65 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:12:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElWd4-0006bz-4G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElWMY-0005Sa-5E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElWMW-0005Rz-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:55:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElWMW-0005Rr-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:55:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.228] (helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1ElWO6-0005Va-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jBBJD6Hm018180 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:13:07 -0600 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jBBItPvL025068 for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:55:25 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dhcp-amer-whq-csvpn-gw3-141-144-81-104.vpn.oracle.com [141.144.81.104]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id jBBItOSm025060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:55:24 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: <200512110340.jBB3eAh22339@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47473 Archived-At: I do agree that customize-browse is good, but it is still not my first tool for finding an option. In fact I seldom use it, but at times I use it to get an overview. One important thing to realize if you rely too exclusively on customize-apropos (or on other apropos commands for that matter) is that the buffer produced by customize-apropos does _not_ contain all customizable options, faces and groups matching your regexp, but _only_ those that are loaded. This is a weakness of all the apropos functions. On the other hand, customize-browse will load everything as needed. Yes, this is important. Why not add this information to the doc strings of the customize-apropos* commands? It would be sufficient to add the qualifier "loaded": - customize-apropos: "Customize all loaded user options matching REGEXP" - customize-apropos-faces: "Customize all loaded user faces matching REGEXP" - customize-apropos-groups: "Customize all loaded user groups matching REGEXP" - customize-apropos-options: "Customize all loaded user options matching REGEXP" Likewise, for the regular apropos commands, if they have similar behavior.