From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Bindings on the mode-line Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:34:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20050914.230534.42650714.jet@gyve.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126717440 22832 80.91.229.2 (14 Sep 2005 17:04:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 19:03:53 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFabW-0001oF-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFabV-0006Fr-Pa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:59:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EFaYf-00051f-5g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:56:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EFaYd-00050y-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:56:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFaDn-000447-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.229] (helo=agminet02.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1EFaDj-0006z6-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:34:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.49]) by agminet02.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j8EGYj7X000667 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:34:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id j8EGYjpw029381 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:34:45 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw300.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with SMTP id j8EGYi99029374 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:34:45 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20050914.230534.42650714.jet@gyve.org> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42931 Archived-At: I support this proposal. Emacs doesn't have convention for the usage of mouse-[1-3]. It is good time to define a convention like C-x for global binding prefix and C-c for major mode prefix. I don't know if this is a good time for that - I doubt it. It will likely be another wrestling match, with everyone having a different, strong opinion. UI matters always seem to bring that out. After the release is a better time. I hope mouse-3 is reserved for context menus. I generally agree, with the proviso that "reserved" here be interpreted rather softly. Mouse-3 is already used for such things as extending the region, so such a reservation could not anyway be strict. IOW, it is generally a good convention to use mouse-3, or mouse-3 with some modifier, for context menus, but we shouldn't change important existing functionality just to respect such a convention (IMO). Also, it is sometimes useful to have different context menus available at the same time. We already have C-mouse-3 (mode) and C-mouse-2 (Text Properties), for instance. An additional (soft) convention could hold that in such cases, the mouse-3 menu would be more directly related to the mode (as is the case with C-mouse-3). In addition a key is needed for popping up a context menu under point. Yes, that would be useful. When there is more than one such menu, the user could choose (e.g. in the minibuffer).