From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Running emacs without any customisation Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 18:52:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87y1tmmmiv.fsf@web.de> <87sfjumm07.fsf@web.de> <87mta2mj1h.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23754"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 20:57:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oiKRf-0005np-3b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 20:57:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48560 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiKRd-0004mz-O4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:57:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiKNM-0002iM-Ue for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:26873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiKNK-0000P0-8O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2022 14:53:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1665514388; x=1665773588; bh=b1WuMHEjJrvyrdP44NmATJuZNrZQ0xt5e8j3XA5C+18=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=Bp7zFWV8bfTHGRDP34OwSmTKBgqCyXq390Yc4aiLQOgmVHkURKubCBDMgp1SLx+3q kzla2BrHka6zMivi1+uKOOuVtFi5iCmj4/EdqsL4mMBTFUw5uOiTFnaI8VsDbKMGcV ISFUChqHEL0zHKAuoZLTAk2lmVfhn9TomYxljf5ahUcuA9B8yEdoFUCZCNUzTlWEwy BmdvX1jKRQTKsSBUcKWe08ZxMmSJ7kpmiXc08Qih65FwMIVagtqxBlxHxZNqw9ltpU p3d5fC1ztyo6iTGWqsXMmXAk8YJTwA9AxE6bx2dmK84mZNX+F7kRRO3hCtDVhqgOo/ larrlgjGdY57Q== In-Reply-To: <87mta2mj1h.fsf@web.de> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.18; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4318.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139823 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Tuesday, October 11th, 2022 at 4:17 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Drew Adams drew.adams@oracle.com writes: > > > [a lot :-)] > > > Yes, sure, like baroque counterpoint rules not always respected even by > Bach himself. > > The decision of what side effects are surprising or "an error" is > subjective. OTOH, it's probably not easy to find good examples for > acceptable not totally trivial loading side effects, so the rule is a > good one generally, and it's good to speak it out clearly, because > people not respecting it is by far the bigger problem, and people who > know what they are doing know what they are doing anyway. > > Michael. I have looked at ".emacs.d" and removed session files and abbrev values. I= only have=20 company, xr and gnupg. Still I get black background.