From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: keypad-*-setup Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:11:44 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188972734 2937 80.91.229.12 (5 Sep 2007 06:12:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:12:14 +0000 (UTC) To: "Emacs-Devel" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 05 08:12:12 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ISo7X-0003Eh-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:12:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISo7W-0002hz-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISo7T-0002hu-FN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISo7R-0002hi-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISo7Q-0002hf-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISo7Q-0001lc-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id l856C1Bv028569 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:12:01 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l855PONv028017 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:12:01 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-64-152.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3183700361188972703; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:11:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77824 Archived-At: I think the doc for keypad-setup, keypad-shifted-setup, and keypad-numlock-shifted-setup is pretty poor. Let me put it a different way: I can't understand it. The Emacs manual essentially sends you off to Customize for an understanding, and Customize says only things that are incomprehensible to me, such as "When selecting the plain numeric keypad setup, the character returned by the decimal key must be specified." Specified how, where, what for? What is "the character returned by the decimal key"? What is "the decimal key"? (decimal point key perhaps? a decimal number key 0-9 perhaps?) Quite a puzzle. I suppose this is generally about having configurations of key bindings for the keypad when it is shifted, Num Lock is depressed, both, and neither, but that's all I've been able to gather from the doc. One of the possible values is even "Unspecified/User-Defined", but I have no idea how that works. And what is the difference between "Plain numeric keypad" and "Numeric Keypad with Decimal Key"? Shouldn't the doc explain what each of these values means? Could someone savvy please improve this doc a bit?