From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: disable mouse input Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:41:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <25D3A1F4-424F-48A4-AB76-CA71FB153E95@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347648132 12900 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2012 18:42:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:42:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Ferdinand'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 20:42:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCaqB-0002Yp-70 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:42:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCaq7-0003TS-EI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34605) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCaq0-0003TK-E7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCapz-0002G3-95 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:42:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:37007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCapz-0002Fx-21 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:41:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8EIftCg029716 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:41:56 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8EIftcf028427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:41:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8EIfsha012571; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:41:54 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.182.71) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:41:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <25D3A1F4-424F-48A4-AB76-CA71FB153E95@gmx.de> Thread-Index: Ac2So79GEbJCMP95TCyQnGmme1d5rwAAtckQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.117 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86776 Archived-At: > I currently try to learn to work with emacs. > But I am really used to work with the mouse (mainly to scroll > through text-documents and position the cursor). You can certainly use the Emacs mouse to scroll and to position the cursor. ;-) > In emacs this feels a little bit out of place > (especially because I am working on Mac OS and my emacs > version has no inertia scrolling). Someone else can perhaps speak specifically to inertia scrolling - I'm not familiar with it. But you have not otherwise described what makes you feel out of place using the Emacs mouse. Have you read the Emacs manual about the Emacs mouse? That might help. > But since I am so used to using the mouse (actually the > trackpad) it just happens automatically. What happens automatically? > Is there any way to disable mouse / trackpad input in emacs? Just don't use it? If you don't use it then there is no input from it. > And, for the emacs professionals here on the list; do you > really not use the mouse at all? There is no such thing as an Emacs professional, IMHO (including anyone who makes money teaching or writing about Emacs). Some longtime (and some shorttime) Emacs users do not use a mouse. Some do. I am a longtime user, and I do use a mouse. I don't use it all the time and for everything, but I certainly do use it. Nothing beats a pointer device for, well, pointing (i.e., direct-access), IMO. ;-) That should be a no-brainer, but for some reason it seems controversial among Emacs users. Some will find ways to prefer navigating using keys even to an arbitrary position that they can see and point to with their finger but for which there is no particularly handy key sequence available. (Some people no doubt prefer magnetic tape access over disk access...) This is a sensitive topic in Emacsland, and you will find some users who are *strongly* anti-rodent. They are nuts, of course. ;-) > How do you navigate through a document quickly (to get an overview)? > Or how do you jump to a specific position without the mouse? There are lots of handy ways to use the keyboard (i.e., non-mouse key sequences) to navigate in Emacs. The manual is your friend. And yes, various tours and tutorials can also help. My suggestion would be to start by trying to use the mouse more or less as you have been using it outside Emacs, and gradually learn more about keyboard key bindings (aka "shortcuts"). But read the manual about the Emacs mouse now, so you know what to expect, including any differences in behavior wrt what you are used to .