From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: problems with efont Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:01:20 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20100101183320.GA27757@gaston.couberia.bzh> <619C2E23-EDA7-4A7D-9C4D-9A4DA7318F90@Web.DE> <20100102172226.GA19399@gaston.couberia.bzh> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262556128 16162 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2010 22:02:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 22:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Users To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_M=FCnster?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 23:02:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NRYWO-0002gL-Bg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:02:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55142 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRYWO-0004yZ-PU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:02:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRYVu-0004w0-Dm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRYVp-0004te-U4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:01:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35302 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRYVp-0004tW-Ix for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]:44087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRYVo-0005dQ-VE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5531440E805; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:01:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [91.35.223.233] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #314) id 1NRYVn-0002sJ-00; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:01:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20100102172226.GA19399@gaston.couberia.bzh> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+cn7Ka8P8W86UA8tQQ/jqwa8DXp6C33IHJ3jh/ iEP8gXr+DTbzqWS0AuT3EOaMcf/9EqQpb4EUov+ATvbnoMadKi Wep84HDqkRhtsBPeyJ8w== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:71036 Archived-At: Am 02.01.2010 um 18:22 schrieb Peter M=FCnster: > I tried > -b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans-20-140-100-100-m-120-=20 > iso10646-1 Sorry for my late reply, I had some other things to do =96 and =20 particularly to remember my experience with efont! =46rom this XLFD name = =20 I cannot tell anything. You could! For example by removing elements of =20= the X server's font path (and rehashing the remainder) and see when =20 this font vanishes from the list. But this can be faulty: GNU Emacs =20 might use fontconfig (the user supplied side, which is able to provide =20= the font's file name!). In the end the font can be part of the Lucida =20= bitmap fonts in X11. Its size indicator points into this direction. =20 Usually scalable or vector fonts can be deduced from their pixel and =20 point size of 0 points. > > The result is here: http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/emacs/screenshot-4.jpg > It seems pale and pixelized. Is this normal? What do you think? To me only "(" and ")" look pixelised. This can be due to poor =20 performance of the rendering engine in your X server. > I don't know, if this font comes from Java. I get the fontnames from > "xlsfonts". Check which shared libraries your version of GNU Emacs uses! If =20 libfontconfig is among them then it will use fontconfig and you have =20 its utilities fc-list or fc-match. Some possible commands (in case =20 you're new to this): fc-list :lang=3Del,ar,he | sort fc-list : file family lang fc-list : file lang spacing | grep spac | egrep 'lang=3D.*th' > > Can you reproduce the problems with efont? I remember that I tried efont and had the same problem: the width of =20 LCR (Latin, Cyrillic, Greek) glyphs was much too wide, maybe adapted =20 to that of complex CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) glyphs. It might be =20= OK for CJK use... In my Mac OS X system the Lucida TrueType fonts are in /System/Library/=20= Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions//Home/lib/fonts. File =20 names: LucidaTypewriter*.ttf. -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Wasting time is an important part of living.