Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

--- Mar 31/3/09, Jan Buchal <buchal@brailcom.org> ha scritto:
> I use Clocking work time function for a logging my work.
> With keys C-c C-x
> C-i I start a clocking and with C-c C-x C-o I finish my
> clocking. the
> function put something like:
> 
>   CLOCK: [2009-03-30 Po 11:00]--[2009-03-30 Po 11:38]
> =>  0:38
> 
> and then I use the dynamic region for summary of my all
> times. But I
> would like have in a table not a times but a dates too. Is
> it any way?
> the table can seams for example so:
> 
> #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
> Clock summary at [2009-03-31 Út 15:21]
> 
> | L | Headline                             | Time   |
> |---+--------------------------------------+--------|
> |   | *Total time*                         | *0:38* |
> |---+--------------------------------------+--------|
> | 1 | project one:              | 2009-03-31 0:38   |
> #+END:
> 
> Also not a time only but date plus time. Is it possible?
> 

Jan, 2 suggestions:

1.  how about using date in the *headline itself?*:

--------------------test.org-----------
* [2009-04-01 mer] time
** 1st task
   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 mer 15:20]--[2009-04-01 mer 15:28] =>  0:08
** 2nd task
   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 mer 15:18]--[2009-04-01 mer 15:28] =>  0:10

#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
Clock summary at [2009-04-01 mer 15:29]
| L | Headline                                   |    Time |       |
|---+--------------------------------------------+---------+-------|
|   | *Total time*                               | *33:33* |       |
|---+--------------------------------------------+---------+-------|
| 1 | [2009-04-01 mer] time                      |    0:18 |       |
| 2 | 1st task                                   |         |  0:08 |
| 2 | 2nd task                                   |         |  0:10 |
|---+--------------------------------------------+---------+-------|
#+END:

2. exploit properties 
-----------------------------test2.org------------------
* [2009-04-01 mer] time
:PROPERTIES:
:COLUMNS:%Heading %Date %CLOCKSUM
:END:
** 1s task
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: task
:Heading: 1s Task
:Date: [2009-04-01 mer]
   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 mer 15:20]--[2009-04-01 mer 15:28] =>  0:08
:END:
** 2nd task
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: task
:Heading: 2nd task
   :Date:  [2009-01-28 mer]
   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 mer 15:18]--[2009-04-01 mer 15:28] =>  0:10
:END:
#+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :id "task"
| Heading  | Date             | CLOCKSUM |
|----------+------------------+----------|
|          |                  |     0:18 |
| 1st task | [2009-04-01 mer] |     0:08 |
| 2nd task | [2009-01-28 mer] |     0:10 |
#+END:
---------------------------------------------------

Carsten, is it possible to have, as a special property, 
the value of the headline ?
.. shouldn't be complicated, it's already extracted 
for clocktables.. ;-)

cheers,
Giovanni

Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Giovanni and Jan,

>> I use Clocking work time function for a logging my work. [...] I would like
>> have in a table not a times but a dates too.

I have related questions on this subject as well...

Up to now, I was clocking time with timeclock-x under Emacs, and files such
as:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
i 2009/02/02 08:45:00 Client1
o 2009/02/02 09:35:00


>> Reading my mails.
i 2009/02/02 09:35:00 Client2
o 2009/02/02 12:30:00


>> Analysing their stuff for CCh.
i 2009/02/02 13:35:00 Client1
o 2009/02/02 17:30:00


>> Written the big report.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

This is nice because it is chronological and I have notes about every clocked
time, but that's all...

Org beats this by orders of magnitude. That's why I've decided to begin now to
use Org as well for that.

Here is my example for these first 2 days of April:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

* 2009-04

*** Client1
    :LOGBOOK:
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]
    :END:

*** Client2
    :LOGBOOK:
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
    :END:


#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file :block today
Clock summary at [2009-04-02 Thu 10:41], for Thursday, April 02, 2009.

| L | Headline     | Time   |
|---+--------------+--------|
|   | *Total time* | *0:00* |
|---+--------------+--------|
#+END:


#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
Clock summary at [2009-04-02 Thu 10:41]

| L | Headline     | Time   |      |
|---+--------------+--------+------|
|   | *Total time* | *7:30* |      |
|---+--------------+--------+------|
| 1 | 2009-04      | 7:30   |      |
| 2 | Client1      |        | 6:15 |
| 2 | Client2      |        | 1:15 |
#+END:

--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Fantastic is that I can check how much time I've globally worked on which
project for this day and for this month at the same time.

Though:

- how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time that I clock?
  The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the different days I
  worked for them (and put that in their bill).

  Am I forced to add sub-headlines for every block of time?  Is there another
  better (clearer) way to do?

- is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a chronological view
  of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?

Once again, and mainly to Carsten, thanks a lot^100 for the great work you've
done and shared... This is one fantastic way to lock me more in Emacs, which
is something I love.

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi Giovanni and Jan,
>
>>> I use Clocking work time function for a logging my work. [...] I  
>>> would like
>>> have in a table not a times but a dates too.
>
> I have related questions on this subject as well...
>
> Up to now, I was clocking time with timeclock-x under Emacs, and  
> files such
> as:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> i 2009/02/02 08:45:00 Client1
> o 2009/02/02 09:35:00
>
>
>>> Reading my mails.
> i 2009/02/02 09:35:00 Client2
> o 2009/02/02 12:30:00
>
>
>>> Analysing their stuff for CCh.
> i 2009/02/02 13:35:00 Client1
> o 2009/02/02 17:30:00
>
>
>>> Written the big report.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> This is nice because it is chronological and I have notes about  
> every clocked
> time, but that's all...
>
> Org beats this by orders of magnitude. That's why I've decided to  
> begin now to
> use Org as well for that.
>
> Here is my example for these first 2 days of April:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>
> * 2009-04
>
> *** Client1
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]
>    :END:
>
> *** Client2
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
>    :END:
>
>
> #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file :block today
> Clock summary at [2009-04-02 Thu 10:41], for Thursday, April 02, 2009.
>
> | L | Headline     | Time   |
> |---+--------------+--------|
> |   | *Total time* | *0:00* |
> |---+--------------+--------|
> #+END:
>
>
> #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
> Clock summary at [2009-04-02 Thu 10:41]
>
> | L | Headline     | Time   |      |
> |---+--------------+--------+------|
> |   | *Total time* | *7:30* |      |
> |---+--------------+--------+------|
> | 1 | 2009-04      | 7:30   |      |
> | 2 | Client1      |        | 6:15 |
> | 2 | Client2      |        | 1:15 |
> #+END:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Fantastic is that I can check how much time I've globally worked on  
> which
> project for this day and for this month at the same time.
>
> Though:
>
> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time that  
> I clock?
>  The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the  
> different days I
>  worked for them (and put that in their bill).

#+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out

>
>  Am I forced to add sub-headlines for every block of time?  Is there  
> another
>  better (clearer) way to do?
>
> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a  
> chronological view
>  of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?

This is what the timeline buffer is for:

C-c a L

to get the buffer,

then press `l' or even `C-u l'

to get logging information included into this time-sorted display

- Carsten

Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Carsten,

First, thanks for answering so fast.

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time that I
>>   clock?
>>
>>  The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the different days
>>  I worked for them (and put that in their bill).
>>
>>  Am I forced to add sub-headlines for every block of time? Is there another
>>  better (clearer) way to do?
>
> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out

Done. Works as expected. Thanks.


>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a chronological
>>   view of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?
>
> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>
> C-c a L
>
> to get the buffer,
>
> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>
> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display

Done. But partially works...

Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Wednesday   1 April 2009
  Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
  Clocked:   (0:30) Client2
  Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
  Clocked:   (0:45) Client2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thursday    2 April 2009
  Clocked:   (3:35) Client1
  Clocked:   (0:24) Client1
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* 2009-04

*** Client1
    :LOGBOOK:
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]--[2009-04-02 Thu 12:30] =>  3:35
    - Worked on Web site.
    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 13:26]--[2009-04-02 Thu 13:50] =>  0:24
    - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
    :END:

*** Client2
    :LOGBOOK:
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
    - Searched info for mail.
    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
    - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
    :END:

* Setup

#+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Any idea?

I'm using Org-mode version 6.24trans.

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

No, the notes are not displayed in the time line, that is correct.
Press space to see the note or use follow-mode.  Hmm, that might not  
work in a drawer.........

Something to think about.

- Carsten

On Apr 2, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> First, thanks for answering so fast.
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>>> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time  
>>> that I
>>>  clock?
>>>
>>> The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the  
>>> different days
>>> I worked for them (and put that in their bill).
>>>
>>> Am I forced to add sub-headlines for every block of time? Is there  
>>> another
>>> better (clearer) way to do?
>>
>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>
> Done. Works as expected. Thanks.
>
>
>>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a  
>>> chronological
>>>  view of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?
>>
>> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>>
>> C-c a L
>>
>> to get the buffer,
>>
>> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>>
>> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display
>
> Done. But partially works...
>
> Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Wednesday   1 April 2009
>  Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
>  Clocked:   (0:30) Client2
>  Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
>  Clocked:   (0:45) Client2
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thursday    2 April 2009
>  Clocked:   (3:35) Client1
>  Clocked:   (0:24) Client1
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> * 2009-04
>
> *** Client1
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]--[2009-04-02 Thu 12:30] =>  3:35
>    - Worked on Web site.
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 13:26]--[2009-04-02 Thu 13:50] =>  0:24
>    - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
>    :END:
>
> *** Client2
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
>    - Searched info for mail.
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
>    - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
>    :END:
>
> * Setup
>
> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Any idea?
>
> I'm using Org-mode version 6.24trans.
>
> Best regards,
>  Seb
>
> -- 
> Sébastien Vauban
>
>
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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> No, the notes are not displayed in the time line, that is correct.
> Press space to see the note or use follow-mode.  Hmm, that might not  
> work in a drawer.........

I just tried, the drawers will be openend when you press SPC or when  
you use follow-mode (toggle it with "f").  So you will be able to see  
the information, even if it is in another window.

- Carsten



>
> Something to think about.
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> First, thanks for answering so fast.
>>
>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>>>> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time  
>>>> that I
>>>> clock?
>>>>
>>>> The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the  
>>>> different days
>>>> I worked for them (and put that in their bill).
>>>>
>>>> Am I forced to add sub-headlines for every block of time? Is  
>>>> there another
>>>> better (clearer) way to do?
>>>
>>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>>
>> Done. Works as expected. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a  
>>>> chronological
>>>> view of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?
>>>
>>> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>>>
>>> C-c a L
>>>
>>> to get the buffer,
>>>
>>> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>>>
>>> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display
>>
>> Done. But partially works...
>>
>> Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> Wednesday   1 April 2009
>> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
>> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2
>> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
>> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Thursday    2 April 2009
>> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1
>> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> * 2009-04
>>
>> *** Client1
>>   :LOGBOOK:
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]--[2009-04-02 Thu 12:30] =>  3:35
>>   - Worked on Web site.
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 13:26]--[2009-04-02 Thu 13:50] =>  0:24
>>   - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
>>   :END:
>>
>> *** Client2
>>   :LOGBOOK:
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
>>   - Searched info for mail.
>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
>>   - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
>>   :END:
>>
>> * Setup
>>
>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>> I'm using Org-mode version 6.24trans.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Seb
>>
>> -- 
>> Sébastien Vauban
>>
>>
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Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>> Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>>>>> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time that I
>>>>>   clock?
>>>>>
>>>>>   The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the different
>>>>>   days I worked for them (and put that in their bill).
>>>>
>>>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>>>
>>> Done. Works as expected. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a
>>>>>   chronological view of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?
>>>>
>>>> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>>>>
>>>> C-c a L
>>>>
>>>> to get the buffer,
>>>>
>>>> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>>>>
>>>> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display
>>>
>>> Done. But partially works...
>>>
>>> Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results:
>>>
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>> Wednesday   1 April 2009
>>> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
>>> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2
>>> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
>>> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Thursday    2 April 2009
>>> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1
>>> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>
>>> I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file:
>>>
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>> * 2009-04
>>>
>>> *** Client1
>>>   :LOGBOOK:
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]--[2009-04-02 Thu 12:30] =>  3:35
>>>   - Worked on Web site.
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 13:26]--[2009-04-02 Thu 13:50] =>  0:24
>>>   - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
>>>   :END:
>>>
>>> *** Client2
>>>   :LOGBOOK:
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
>>>   - Searched info for mail.
>>>   CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
>>>   - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
>>>   :END:
>>>
>>> * Setup
>>>
>>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> No, the notes are not displayed in the time line, that is correct.

What is the difference between `l' and `C-u l', then?

I thought that "press[ing] `C-u l' to get logging information included into
this time-sorted display" just meant that...


>> Press space to see the note or use follow-mode. Hmm, that might not work in
>> a drawer.........
>
> I just tried, the drawers will be openend when you press SPC or when you use
> follow-mode (toggle it with "f"). So you will be able to see the
> information, even if it is in another window.

That is simply great!  Waouwww.

But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to that one (it may
be completely different -- just speaking of the information that's somehow
displayed)?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Wednesday   1 April 2009
Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
Clocked:   (0:30) Client2 - Searched info for mail.
Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
Clocked:   (0:45) Client2 - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thursday    2 April 2009
Clocked:   (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web site.
Clocked:   (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The fact is, in my company (where I just am an employee), I have to give out
to our accountant 2 things at the end of every month:

    o   a list of time spent per client (the table is great therefore);

    o   a chronological view, with notes, so that she can put dates and
        summary justifications in the bill she sends to them.

The first one is available as is. My question goes for the second type of
information.

Best regards. And, once again, many thanks for your helping handS!
  Seb

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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>> Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>>>>>> - how can I associate a one-line comment to every block of time  
>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>  clock?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The goal is to be able to justify, later, what I did on the  
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>  days I worked for them (and put that in their bill).
>>>>>
>>>>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>>>>
>>>> Done. Works as expected. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a
>>>>>>  chronological view of the whole file (where all projects are  
>>>>>> mixed)?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>>>>>
>>>>> C-c a L
>>>>>
>>>>> to get the buffer,
>>>>>
>>>>> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>>>>>
>>>>> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display
>>>>
>>>> Done. But partially works...
>>>>
>>>> Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results:
>>>>
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>>> Wednesday   1 April 2009
>>>> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
>>>> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2
>>>> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
>>>> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Thursday    2 April 2009
>>>> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1
>>>> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>>
>>>> I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file:
>>>>
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>>> * 2009-04
>>>>
>>>> *** Client1
>>>>  :LOGBOOK:
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 09:05]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:00] =>  2:55
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 13:10]--[2009-04-01 Wed 16:30] =>  3:20
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 08:55]--[2009-04-02 Thu 12:30] =>  3:35
>>>>  - Worked on Web site.
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 13:26]--[2009-04-02 Thu 13:50] =>  0:24
>>>>  - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
>>>>  :END:
>>>>
>>>> *** Client2
>>>>  :LOGBOOK:
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 12:00]--[2009-04-01 Wed 12:30] =>  0:30
>>>>  - Searched info for mail.
>>>>  CLOCK: [2009-04-01 Wed 16:30]--[2009-04-01 Wed 17:15] =>  0:45
>>>>  - Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
>>>>  :END:
>>>>
>>>> * Setup
>>>>
>>>> #+STARTUP: lognoteclock-out
>>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>
>>> No, the notes are not displayed in the time line, that is correct.
>
> What is the difference between `l' and `C-u l', then?

C-u l  will also list logged state changes, this is described in the  
manual.

- Carsten

>
> I thought that "press[ing] `C-u l' to get logging information  
> included into
> this time-sorted display" just meant that...
>
>
>>> Press space to see the note or use follow-mode. Hmm, that might  
>>> not work in
>>> a drawer.........
>>
>> I just tried, the drawers will be openend when you press SPC or  
>> when you use
>> follow-mode (toggle it with "f"). So you will be able to see the
>> information, even if it is in another window.
>
> That is simply great!  Waouwww.
>
> But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to that  
> one (it may
> be completely different -- just speaking of the information that's  
> somehow
> displayed)?
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Wednesday   1 April 2009
> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2 - Searched info for mail.
> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2 - Sent mail (after long discussion about  
> bandwidth).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thursday    2 April 2009
> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web site.
> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> The fact is, in my company (where I just am an employee), I have to  
> give out
> to our accountant 2 things at the end of every month:
>
>    o   a list of time spent per client (the table is great therefore);
>
>    o   a chronological view, with notes, so that she can put dates and
>        summary justifications in the bill she sends to them.
>
> The first one is available as is. My question goes for the second  
> type of
> information.
>
> Best regards. And, once again, many thanks for your helping handS!
>  Seb
>
> -- 
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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

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On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>
> That is simply great!  Waouwww.
>
> But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to that  
> one (it may
> be completely different -- just speaking of the information that's  
> somehow
> displayed)?
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Wednesday   1 April 2009
> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2 - Searched info for mail.
> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2 - Sent mail (after long discussion about  
> bandwidth).
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Thursday    2 April 2009
> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web site.
> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

You know, this is actually a very useful idea.  I have added this  
feature, thanks.

- Carsten


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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Jan Buchal]

>>>>> "CD" == Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:

    CD> On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

    That is simply great!  Waouwww.
   
    CD> But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to
    CD> that one (it may be completely different -- just speaking of the
    CD> information that's somehow displayed)?
   
    CD> --8<---------------cut
    CD> here---------------start------------->8--- Wednesday 1 April
    CD> 2009 Clocked: (2:55) Client1 Clocked: (0:30) Client2 - Searched
    CD> info for mail. Clocked: (3:20) Client1 Clocked: (0:45) Client2 -
    CD> Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
    CD> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CD> Thursday 2 April 2009 Clocked: (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web
    CD> site. Clocked: (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view
    CD> with logs. --8<---------------cut
    CD> here---------------end--------------->8---
Yes, that what I need.

    CD> You know, this is actually a very useful idea. I have added this
    CD> feature, thanks.
Where can I it find? In git repository of development snapshot?

Thanks very much


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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:

>>>>>> "CD" == Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>    CD> On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>
>    That is simply great!  Waouwww.
>
>    CD> But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to
>    CD> that one (it may be completely different -- just speaking of  
> the
>    CD> information that's somehow displayed)?
>
>    CD> --8<---------------cut
>    CD> here---------------start------------->8--- Wednesday 1 April
>    CD> 2009 Clocked: (2:55) Client1 Clocked: (0:30) Client2 - Searched
>    CD> info for mail. Clocked: (3:20) Client1 Clocked: (0:45)  
> Client2 -
>    CD> Sent mail (after long discussion about bandwidth).
>    CD>  
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    CD> Thursday 2 April 2009 Clocked: (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web
>    CD> site. Clocked: (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view
>    CD> with logs. --8<---------------cut
>    CD> here---------------end--------------->8---
> Yes, that what I need.
>
>    CD> You know, this is actually a very useful idea. I have added  
> this
>    CD> feature, thanks.
> Where can I it find? In git repository of development snapshot?

Both.

- Carsten

Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>>>> Sébastien Vauban wrote:
>>>>>>> - is there a possibility to get back, out of such a file, a
>>>>>>>  chronological view of the whole file (where all projects are mixed)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what the timeline buffer is for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C-c a L
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to get the buffer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> then press `l' or even `C-u l'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to get logging information included into this time-sorted display
>>>>>
>>>>> Done. But partially works...
>>>>> Pressing `l' or `C-u l' gives me the same results.
>>>>> I never see the log note that's though stored in my Org file.
>>>>
>>>> No, the notes are not displayed in the time line, that is correct.
>>
>> What is the difference between `l' and `C-u l', then?
>>
>> I thought that "press[ing] `C-u l' to get logging information included into
>> this time-sorted display" just meant that...
>
> C-u l  will also list logged state changes, this is described in the manual.

I had read the info about the command:

    ,----
    | l runs the command org-agenda-log-mode, which is an interactive Lisp function
    | in `org-agenda.el'.
    |
    | It is bound to l, <menu-bar> <Agenda> <View> <Show Logbook entries>.
    |
    | (org-agenda-log-mode &optional special)
    |
    | Toggle log mode in an agenda buffer.
    | With argument special, show all possible log items, not only the ones
    | configured in `org-agenda-log-mode-items'.
    | With a double `C-u' prefix arg, show *only* log items, nothing else.
    `----

and understood, out of that, that it did what I was expecting (show all
possible log items --> notes?).

Never mind. You've just done it... THANKS A LOT!

>> But, still, is there any obvious way to get a view similar to that one (it
>> may be completely different -- just speaking of the information that's
>> somehow displayed)?
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> Wednesday   1 April 2009
>> Clocked:   (2:55) Client1
>> Clocked:   (0:30) Client2 - Searched info for mail.
>> Clocked:   (3:20) Client1
>> Clocked:   (0:45) Client2 - Sent mail (after long discussion about
>> bandwidth).
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Thursday    2 April 2009
>> Clocked:   (3:35) Client1 - Worked on Web site.
>> Clocked:   (0:24) Client1 - Testing Org chronological view with logs.
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> You know, this is actually a very useful idea.  I have added this feature,
> thanks.

It's a dream: I wanna get something, and I get it straight away!  I'll wake up
soon...

Thanks for all,
  Seb

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Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Carsten,

Just a small bug to report. With such a source file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* 2009-04

#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
Clock summary at [2009-04-03 Fri 14:05]

| L | Headline     | Time    |       |
|---+--------------+---------+-------|
|   | *Total time* | *12:00* |       |
|---+--------------+---------+-------|
| 1 | 2009-03      | 12:00   |       |
| 2 | Client2      |         | 12:00 |
#+END:

*** Client2
    :LOGBOOK:
    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 09:00]--[2009-04-02 Thu 10:55] =>  1:55
    CLOCK: [2009-04-03 Fri 07:00]--[2009-04-03 Fri 17:05] => 10:05
    - Demo the whole day in France
    :END:
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I get such a summary:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Thursday    2 April 2009
  Clocked:   (1:55) Client2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Friday      3 April 2009
  Clocked:   (0:05) Client2
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The small bug in that, in that agenda view, the time is truncated: `0:05'
instead of `10:05'...

Totals in summary are correct, it's only a presentation issue.

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: Re: Clocking work time with a date not a time only

[Carsten Dominik]

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Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Apr 3, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Just a small bug to report. With such a source file:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> * 2009-04
>
> #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file
> Clock summary at [2009-04-03 Fri 14:05]
>
> | L | Headline     | Time    |       |
> |---+--------------+---------+-------|
> |   | *Total time* | *12:00* |       |
> |---+--------------+---------+-------|
> | 1 | 2009-03      | 12:00   |       |
> | 2 | Client2      |         | 12:00 |
> #+END:
>
> *** Client2
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-02 Thu 09:00]--[2009-04-02 Thu 10:55] =>  1:55
>    CLOCK: [2009-04-03 Fri 07:00]--[2009-04-03 Fri 17:05] => 10:05
>    - Demo the whole day in France
>    :END:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I get such a summary:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Thursday    2 April 2009
>  Clocked:   (1:55) Client2
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Friday      3 April 2009
>  Clocked:   (0:05) Client2
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> The small bug in that, in that agenda view, the time is truncated:  
> `0:05'
> instead of `10:05'...
>
> Totals in summary are correct, it's only a presentation issue.
>
> Best regards,
>  Seb
>
> -- 
> Sébastien Vauban
>
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