From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: "C-h k" reports " is undefined" Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:09:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325711365 15330 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2012 21:09:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "'York Zhao'" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 04 22:09:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RiY5H-0005VN-JX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:09:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35225 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiY5H-0000Vv-3P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:09:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiY5D-0000Vf-2E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:09:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiY58-0002Xc-2K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:09:14 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:41756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RiY57-0002XM-Th for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:09:10 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q04L9474032354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:09:06 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q04L93WK026801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:09:04 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q04L93Ps017100; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 15:09:03 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:09:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AczLGsFUwi0fu8fxTlaYXb9sh8WxBQACXVRw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4F04BFF2.0097,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:83327 Archived-At: > Since I have never been able to get email work in Emacs, I'm > afraid I'll not be > able to report bugs inside Emacs using "M-x > report-emacs-bug", is there any > other way of reporting Emacs bugs? AFAIK if you have mail already configured in general (not for Emacs), then `M-x report-emacs-bug' will prepare the mail content, subject, and destination, and then call up your mail client. E.g., on Windows, I use Outlook as my mail client, and `M-x report-emacs-bug' causes Outlook to open a new message. I then hit `C-v' to paste the bug-report content (automatically saved to the clipboard) into the message body. Even if you do not use Emacs for mail, `M-x report-emacs-bug' can help, because it puts you in an editing buffer where you type your bug report, and that buffer already has a bunch of important info that can help the Emacs developers. E.g., it shows exactly what your Emacs build is (hence which Emacs version and which platform), and it lists a bunch of variable values that might be pertinent. So you can just use `M-x report-emacs-bug' to get that data, and then paste it into an email message, if you like. You definitely need not configure or use Emacs for email.