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Maybe this is not what I want. Maybe in the past I just was >> lucky not to hit a bug or an incompatible change. I don't think luck is not something you should count on. :) Don't use straight and bleeding edge repositories with branches and what not. It's a recipe for spaghetti setup and hard to find bugs. Built-in package.el + elpa/melpa/nelpa should give you stable setup. >> There are some more issues. Startup time of my emacs is more than 30 >> seconds even after optimizing something with esup. I have 10.000+ files >> in my org-roam and fear that I hit some limitation either of org-roam or >> my hardware. No idea how you managed to collect 10.000+ notes and what not, but if you a= re trying to read them in all at startup, or even index them at startup, it is going to reflect on the startup time. I don't know what you do, or not, but= if something like that is happening, you should find some solution to the prob= lem, like index files offline or something else. 30 secs for Emacs startup sounds like a lot even for slowest hardware. My E= macs on my "fast" gnu/Linux start up in 0.3 seconds, and on very slow old laptop= we have in ~3 seconds, with exact same setup.=20 >> How do you configure your emacs using current versions like org 9.5 but >> at the same time avoiding problems with incompatible packages or newly >> introduced bugs? We don't use "bleeding edge" repositories and custom branches. >> In a few days I=E2=80=99ll get a new computer and I have serious doubt w= hether >> to copy my settings.org to the new one, because there are too many >> problems in the last couple of weeks. >> >> Any hints? For the speed, lazy-evaluate everything at startup; i.e. load things "on demand", when they are asked for. 'with-eval-after-load' and mode hooks are your friends. There is no need fo= r neither straight, use-package and/or general.el if you use it too. If you d= on't know how to use those properly, so please read about those in the manual th= at comes with your Emacs. Just properly use with-eval-after-load and mode hooks, and you'll be ok. Also, this question is probably better asked on Reddit, SX, or help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org than in this list.