From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: globalized minor modes - priority over mode hook? Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:02:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272495800 7136 80.91.229.12 (28 Apr 2010 23:03:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:03:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , "emacs-devel@gnu.org devel" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 29 01:03:19 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7GHm-0000rh-N9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2010 01:03:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39966 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O7GHm-0007JE-25 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O7GHf-0007HJ-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45453 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O7GHe-0007Fs-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7GHc-0005DR-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:38359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O7GHb-0005DM-S3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so1164376vws.0 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:03:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=dgUejZVdWy4FGj9MZC/AD35lT0pmgU8t+zm3FDiKLwo=; b=NIWXt6MCnGLKGihtVsYIsJdEI+XniKH/lOQvWcrtDEbNC9vCmTRkwyOreXY9SWYssL hExh+9YajuT0Ag3BABlIYdsyKMr7wBVjpJibyiuPPiW0Mzqb2p3aVWoIc51iayMRQruP o/7sk5Ogn1TTjgVSwblftUgdunfce1PStPQC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=vR8DQzgE+0MHc+EUuy/e4DXljmfM+sANg7okS5xgdvb4U4TvKWY0h92vQhFV11hWVZ yo9+HUL3iOPW1WMHjCgsZutz4ybT9juDLw8tuQsyffndWI2SB1QBeBW9O2kOJUjHC8No zx1l5rKT6SdAxzjEG3ko3Z4mVVwFdXfJ/rpUw= Original-Received: by 10.220.108.76 with SMTP id e12mr5783103vcp.144.1272495784279; Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.42] (pool-72-95-200-56.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [72.95.200.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z17sm1253707vco.5.2010.04.28.16.03.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:03:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124313 Archived-At: On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> As an aside, it would be good to have a simple way to say "I don't >> want global mode X applied to buffers Y, Z and W." >=20 > Yes, that would be a welcome addition. I agree. =20 Please consider hand-crafting global minor modes in some cases. Take `visual-line-mode': What it does is to configure a number of = variables, most of which are buffer-local: (line-move-visual truncate-lines truncate-partial-width-windows = word-wrap fringe-indicator-alist) The classic way to configure a default for these would be `set-default'. = This seems cleaner and more efficient than automatically deriving a = globalized version of the mode that runs (at least) at every major mode = change and may then be turned off again by the mode hook.=20=