From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexander Poslavsky Subject: Re: Re: org-mode tutorial questionaire Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:00:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bpeesu45.fsf@fastmail.fm> <99A2E2E8-6334-4148-9E65-CDCE2B99EF3F@gmail.com> <20100323205009.GA14337@taupan.ath.cx> <87vdcmbto5.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NuC92-0004Rk-H6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:00:16 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48148 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NuC90-0004QN-Lj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:00:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuC8z-0005eX-9L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:00:14 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]:62464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NuC8z-0005eO-4Y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:00:13 -0400 Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so840341ewy.8 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vdcmbto5.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, David Maus wrote: > Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: >> Hi >=20 >> Alexander Poslavsky schrieb: >>>> I was wondering if you could elaborate on the following. Are you >>>> suggesting that new users should never use M-x customize? >>> Well, I don't know about anybody else, but I *never* use it. I think = it is awful. But then, what do I know=85. >> ---Zitatende--- >=20 >> Maybe that's a bit opinionated for a tutorial then. I do use M-x >> customize and I believe it has its merits. >=20 > I only use M-x customize to look what lever I can pull but pointing at > customize for a user who is new to Emacs, Org and, in turn, elisp > seems to me a really good sugestion. Not just for the user, but maybe > for the authors of the tutorial: You don't have to explain elisp when > talking about customization options. ok, it looks that the general opinion is a lot more positive then I = thought. I'll change it in the tutorial, and see if other things can be = done using M-x customize. thanks for the remarks, keep them coming, alex