From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:56:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83edk26wwu.fsf@gnu.org> <837cpu6sp6.fsf@gnu.org> <83msyq54mw.fsf@gnu.org> <6lEyA2hwLwT0gnrhQsH91Us8wQDf0Cj8-hfYtge1iLDBFEsG5Hj_i80te8w4f52fgOS-g9Z908HRkYHlE05wBV9ccB5h1bFjV755l9nvYh0=@protonmail.com> <83y1i93t7x.fsf@gnu.org> <83wmxs52ti.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24205"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 65348@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 18 07:57:45 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsUS-00066f-UP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:57:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsUJ-00029a-LV; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:57:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsTn-00025V-Uo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:57:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsTm-00017u-1T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsTl-0007xy-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Heime Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65348 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 65348-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65348.169233818630561 (code B ref 65348); Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65348) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2023 05:56:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45916 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsTB-0007wr-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:56:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:45403) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWsT7-0007wZ-TL for 65348@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:56:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1692338175; x=1692597375; bh=oI5I4QAnR6zjoKWAFlFPA3Osnk2zDmnu8nixbXz2zKM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=cGllUzWXIFDXHFFQZwaeV6x90A3Q4MjD7F7RKgfg4Qa2AdCZeg7vXqnEl5WZy62EL +3pO1ATBY+V2Zo/pQ03p4XWDZnkAEQQLwRZq7dd2DbPsKzR4+Zdrs8Yi3pWGbBycFM Yhm7WKa1zZcqEeQCBIXID9jG/oxkRpZN9fn9SKPHGXt/egot6slHSrFA1ptcLkNv+l NwNJCorZ+zzyHzPUI+9BS0gWXTNF4AHw9OD91l6dVfQPNrulEnYvBH2CIan0f783+c ru+4nVUCSo8t6PYah29HQXvBZ3o4BKq0SQfXOAX6kPBjJDInnqOMoSYkQoU5ylT1nB +2a+f/EcDRUhg== In-Reply-To: <83wmxs52ti.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:267717 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, August 18th, 2023 at 5:36 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote= : > > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:13:46 +0000 > > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com > > Cc: 65348@debbugs.gnu.org > >=20 > > > You can have it there. It does work. > >=20 > > But you are designating it as deprecated, which makes others think that= something > > awful is going to happen to it. >=20 >=20 > The manual tells you what to do instead. This used to be easy for beginners. Now it has became complicated. Had ho= ped=20 the plan for the future was to improve things for beginners, now everything= has started to get modified for use mostly by experts. =20 =20 > > > Why do you need INITIAL? > >=20 > > I want the user to see a default without having him to get it with the = bloody "M-n". >=20 >=20 > That's not how you show the default to the user. The way to show the > default to the user is to include it in the prompt, like so: >=20 > Type your choice (default foo): I do not want the user to type it, but for it to be displayed automatically= . And if theyy do not want the default, they can step to the next possibility in COLLECTION.