From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7133BE83-064B-43A4-A193-61376605222C@dancol.org> <055E6E92-6971-409E-A106-7E0C64FEF856@dancol.org> <87bk3r22x5.fsf@yahoo.com> <746FE961-37C5-4387-8274-7D90908EE2D6@dancol.org> <8734p3219c.fsf@yahoo.com> <867cefeo1w.fsf@gnu.org> <8734p03e94.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <867cec9ccl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21207"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Jeremy Bryant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 26 13:45:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMR5G-0005GG-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:45:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMR4g-0004W6-7h; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMR4e-0004Vy-NP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:28 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMR4c-0005bs-W3; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:CC:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=grv6mi4DSbpjYN629omCvencrMTJ2UUegDRXSuO0aeE=; b=keevp7ZZ7ncQVjCKFDYM1QBjOs xW/FThEDXIEwT1TtvEdWGDTBeDVFji3+JST0xM/ht3worrdXR4P+lSDlB6JreEqyEY+Qs9ZDIkFxb S40vDeE6iXlvY+lRq0vx+MweiIdRuJ/FogYTW3bQ7p08bBJOVlO3fjOFYCa8cGl7JL6khqb4q9I6d Smv+/K4/hy+nnv7fJ2e7BwrLkmhTuBjpfcHjk6g4GcFiDSswMAOKwkj/TgG0pDqeo5ivrjAFjZr9D wFhDSrBg4rJdkmblLK97pGRyt2q4N3FfE9t7Pr/i9PZtu4mX5HWTGtj/XFMTofXHTCDXOfnAw0Fs2 IJ58LF1g==; Original-Received: from 2603-9001-4203-1ab2-08f2-f11c-6b14-0feb.inf6.spectrum.com ([2603:9001:4203:1ab2:8f2:f11c:6b14:feb]:54158 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMR4V-0001la-OP; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <867cec9ccl.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1; envelope-from=dancol@dancol.org; helo=dancol.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320673 Archived-At: On June 26, 2024 7:23:38 AM EDT, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Jeremy Bryant >> Cc: Po Lu , dancol@dancol=2Eorg, acm@muc=2Ede, >> stefankangas@gmail=2Ecom, monnier@iro=2Eumontreal=2Eca, emacs-devel= @gnu=2Eorg >> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:26:47 +0100 >>=20 >> 1=2E >> I also find that C-x 4 is indeed logical, which makes it easier to reme= mber >>=20 >> 2=2E >> C-x 4 =2E=2E works on the terminal/console=2E This is important for >> preserving functionality of Emacs=2E > >I still hope that someone will tell what is exactly the request here, >given that windmove-mode is on by default and its commands are >autoloaded=2E To be clear, my proposal is to bind C-x 4 in the default global ke= ymap to the corresponding directional windmove commands and to bind the shi= fted versions of these keys to the state swapping versions of these movemen= t commands=2E IOW, in emacs -Q, C-x 4 LEFT should move left=2E