From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs source snapshots Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1304501969.6763.1448069069@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4DC2E0CD.9030807@online.de> <87aaf1lyx3.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304638160 26812 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2011 23:29:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 01:29:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QI7ys-0003nX-UZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 01:29:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34880 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QI7ys-0000KV-4I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46537) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QI7yp-0000KO-6Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QI7yo-00025U-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:29:11 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu ([18.7.68.37]:57367) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QI7yo-00025Q-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 19:29:10 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074425-b7bd1ae000000a0c-fa-4dc332c75e4a Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 7F.23.02572.7C233CD4; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p45NT8jE027447; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.22] (c-67-183-32-38.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.183.32.38]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p45NT2wx012744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 5 May 2011 19:29:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87aaf1lyx3.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpkleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IRYrdT1z1udNjXoHGmiMXjBU9YLabunc3i wOTRNs3M48CedpYApigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujINzLrAUXOCo+Pf2BXMD4222LkYODgkBE4m3 x/i7GDmBTDGJC/fWA4W5OIQE9jFKLFryiB3CWc8osexTB1TmBJNEy+xHLCAtwgLKEp9nbGEC sXkFDCWWbmpnB7GZBbQkbvx7yQSygU1ABmisBkiYEyj89ctFsHIWARWJq9O2skCUi0v8uNvH CmHLS2x/O4cZpJVXwEri8JsaiLWzGCV2rFrABlIjArS2/+R6qAdkJZqWZUxgFJyF5IhZSI6Y hWTqAkbmVYyyKblVurmJmTnFqcm6xcmJeXmpRboWermZJXqpKaWbGMGh66K6g3HCIaVDjAIc jEo8vKe2HfIVYk0sK67MPcQoycGkJMr7R/+wrxBfUn5KZUZicUZ8UWlOavEhRgkOZiURXo7F QOW8KYmVValF+TApaQ4WJXHe+ZLqvkIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZGQ4OJQneR4ZAQwWLUtNTK9Iy c0oQ0kwcnCDDeYCG3wap4S0uSMwtzkyHyJ9i1OV4sqzhAKMQS15+XqqUOO9BkCIBkKKM0jy4 ObCU84pRHOgtYd4HIFU8wHQFN+kV0BImoCVezQdAlpQkIqSkGhhNZ3U9UtR+Lfm4PFbqf92U M4YnFnH2Xyo5PHHNzAWK60V67Lfubyu/8fDIa44CuXjrql1vbH9J3pX046o+H32/l+XP3e9v RfQmRs7nPMT7c4vuslcOPavufrw2ZX00w8Ibm9xkWFzMN39oObto+0oZmShtgxcz X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 18.7.68.37 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139164 Archived-At: On May 5, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > We just had a long outage of the Git mirror. Let's not say it is a > viable way to obtain Emacs source snapshots. It's not. > > The Bazaar export command I showed is the best way to get a snapshot of > the trunk without getting the whole repository, using only Bazaar itself > without any external dependencies (you only need Bazaar installed). > > It seems unoptimized currently (so the actual download is large) but at > least it's guaranteed to work and can be hosted somewhere. > > Ted The lightweight checkout method I mentioned seems to work without downloading so much, and gives a working albeit slow history, using only bzr. I just tried it now: ; bzr checkout --lightweight http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/emacs/trunk/ ; du -sk trunk/ 120064 trunk/ for comparison, my normal checkout with history: ; du -sk trunk .bzr 120256 trunk 388052 .bzr For annoying reasons, I didn't capture exactly how much bzr reported as downloading, but it seemed to be about 200m. Hope that helps, *Chad