From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:11:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com><83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> <46A82312A6054C6CBE236873622F044B@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284837268 8068 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2010 19:14:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , 'Miles Bader' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 21:14:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2r6-0007mq-D6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 21:14:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44212 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2ql-0006GA-Ud for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:13:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35332 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2p6-0005e6-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2ov-0007T5-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:48818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2os-0007SC-TP; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:11:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o8IJBSeB011607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:11:29 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o8IGAkwI006935; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:11:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt018.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 616054671284837019; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:10:19 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.218.112) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:10:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: ActXSyhFnOBQZFoJTKyoEQKV0c1sZAAEdBTQAAFfznA= In-Reply-To: <46A82312A6054C6CBE236873622F044B@us.oracle.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130442 Archived-At: > > But we're discussing here what to do with C-d: > > for `delete' we already decided that it should delete an > > active region (by default). > > I see. Where/when was that decided? I cannot find such a decision in the mailing list. AFAICT, the key wasn't even mentioned in Yidong's proposal ("Updated proposal for DEL to delete active region"), except to remove it from `mouse-region-delete-keys'. His proposal addressed the commands, not the keys, putting the and keys squarely in the same boat as `C-d' (and `DEL'). So why do you apparently consider that has been decided and cannot be discussed, whereas the question is still open for `C-d'? Where/when did you decide that the key, but not (yet) `C-d', should delete the active region?