From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: bug#20202: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 12:25:35 +1000 Message-ID: References: <87tvqw4w8s.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527215048 20960 195.159.176.226 (25 May 2018 02:24:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 02:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20202@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord , 20484@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Emacs-Devel devel To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 25 04:24:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Of-0005IH-KM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 May 2018 04:24:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41505 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Ql-0000kd-Rr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Qc-0000jZ-SK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Qc-0005KA-1e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39267) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Qb-0005K6-TV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2Qb-0008QL-MZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:26:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Van L Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 02:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20202 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20202-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20202.152721514532351 (code B ref 20202); Fri, 25 May 2018 02:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20202) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 May 2018 02:25:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2QL-0008Pi-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:47921) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fM2QK-0008PX-8Q; Thu, 24 May 2018 22:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from epi.local (123-243-244-176.tpgi.com.au [123.243.244.176]) (Authenticated sender: van@scratch.space) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 168E7200011; Fri, 25 May 2018 04:25:39 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <6443412a-5803-d9c0-1ef3-ece7f49c43e1@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146522 gmane.emacs.devel:225687 Archived-At: > Paul Eggert writes: >=20 > this is the most recent RHEL available You could have your sclerotic institution=E2=80=99s IT manager provide = Enterprise RHEL for students studying topics as old as the hills and = mountains (and they won=E2=80=99t change) and request them to =E2=80=9Cthi= nk" about the latest unstable Fedora or Debian or Ubuntu releases for = research oriented experimental AI & CS =E2=80=9Cwork=E2=80=9D which are = hot career topics and ought not to be held back by bureaucratically = convenient RHEL IT hell. Ask them for what Tesla or Uber or Facebook or = Google use to keep up with =E2=80=9Cinnovation=E2=80=9D before it is = "too late" on RHEL.=