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Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:13:35 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qATIDZjE028238; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:13:35 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.8) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:13:34 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <83obiguvr8.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac3OXJSohIU12ejHSNOWQ6IxUidUKQAAGBFA X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67595 Archived-At: > > If we have already seen more than one way, as you say, that > > seems like a good hint that the assertion itself might be > > flawed: the wrong assertion. It suggests to me that the > > assertion does not understand what it should be > > expecting, and it has too narrow a view of things. > > Yes, that part is clear, and therefore the assertion was removed from > the trunk. But we are trying to figure out with what to replace it, > and for that, we need as many use-cases that violate it as possible. In that case, you are in effect stating that the addition of such a (proper) assertion is just a nice-to-have, not something needed. I would suggest, in that case, that we/you move on to other things...