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Nodes Notation Used ---- ------------- Moving Point, Completion Commands `' Minibuffer Edit `M-' Scrolling `', (both) Insert in Picture `C-c ' Key Index PAGEUP Likewise, for pagedown. These two key names should be mentioned only once, as synonyms for `' and `', which are preferable because the Emacs-Lisp symbols used for these function keys are `next' and `prior'. In any case, we should not use one term (e.g. `') in some places and in other places use another term (e.g. `'). That is confusing and impedes learning. Also, sometimes we write `', sometimes (e.g. nodes `Scrolling', `Completion Commands') we write `'. We should be consistent. We should always use `', both for readability and to reflect the Emacs-Lisp function-key symbol, which aids learning. Also, in node `Moving Point', `M-v' is written also as . This is non-standard, AFAIK.