From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Rethinking count-words-region Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87vcs0q05l.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87d3e75st9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87r52nw7cx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318106991 5215 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2011 20:49:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Juri Linkov'" , "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 22:49:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdq4-0006Lc-PU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:49:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40168 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdq3-0006ge-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdq0-0006gS-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdpy-0003Zi-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:49:40 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:31213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCdpy-0003Ys-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet23.oracle.com (ucsinet23.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p98KnXtE013126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:49:35 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet23.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p98KnWJt026834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:49:33 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p98KnQu1003287; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:49:27 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.53.18) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:49:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87r52nw7cx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: AcyF+dCZKET8NF46TjWjlJwwMq9h8wAAHpoQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: ucsinet23.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4E90B75F.00C7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144765 Archived-At: > Better yet to bind `M-=' to a new command with a general name > like suggested `count-stats' that will take care of different > region activation cases and report all possible counts. 1+ for changing the name. And I propose we get rid of any default binding for the command. Users can bind it if they like. This is a waste of (a) a good, repeatable chord (just hold it down), (b) one that is also usable in a terminal (via `ESC ='), and (c) one that is mnemonic for lots of things that involve _equality_ or _comparison_. `=' is not mnemonic for _counting_ anything. This command does not need to be bound to a key by default - anymore than, say, `cd'. It happens to still hang around from a time when there were more keys to spare and fewer useful commands that we might want to bind.