From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:57:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com><201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu><87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org><874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com><4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de><76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com><87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk7z571u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><81674B067AF84670A2EDDB0178E0C0CC@us.oracle.com><877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz><874oke4kor.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87pr32pd9j.fsf@catnip.gol.com><0726390D71674C4EB1561AF2D9527D66@us.oracle.com><87ocilfl02.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878w9p9y8t.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87iq8tice9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87aau5figo.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268949585 3306 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 21:59:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , 'David Kastrup' , 'Stefan Monnier' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Miles Bader'" , "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 22:59:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsNkZ-0007wi-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:59:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsNkY-0002Ru-N4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsNj0-0000mA-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:57:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44299 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsNiy-0000l5-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:57:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsNix-0003if-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:57:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:62603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsNiu-0003iL-R0; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2ILvkUE006814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:57:47 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2IHLk8x024218; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:57:45 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 93296011268949428; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:57:08 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:57:08 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87aau5figo.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Thread-Index: AcrG3t5pinm8QXaRTYGTuAGbvGr+tAABZBag X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4BA2A1DA.00D5:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122230 Archived-At: > > As I understand from counter-arguments, opponents agree with > > self-inserting characters replacing the region, but only when > > the region is activated explicitly, and not by side-effects of > > setting the mark or exchanging the mark and point. > > I think having magically different types of active region (which look > the same, but act differently) is very confusing, and we should not be > adding more such behavior (I understand the mouse currently has wacky > behavior like this, but That's Bad). I agree 100%. > If the region is active, it should act active, regardless of > how you got there. Absolutely.