From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64597: mode-line tool inaccessible when window width is small Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 11:41:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83r0pb4xff.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilalemsr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: uzibalqa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 64597@debbugs.gnu.org To: uzibalqa Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 15 13:43:40 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdgY-0004Fv-Pv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 13:43:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdgE-0006xp-Co; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:43:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdfz-0006rf-2D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:43:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdfy-0001mz-7q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:43:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdfy-0002dT-38 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:43:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 11:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64597 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 64597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64597.168942133110064 (code B ref 64597); Sat, 15 Jul 2023 11:43:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jul 2023 11:42:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdf8-0002cF-JN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:42:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40141.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.141]:41071) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qKdf6-0002c0-9x for 64597@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jul 2023 07:42:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=azpjo3lx2zglnocpswneepx4ei.protonmail; t=1689421322; x=1689680522; bh=g2y0fNxaz3g3XWXa5VV6GRPtWkRthO2pavX6XxXn4BU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=I6kWKrA/2K2AVReFxDD6kFfrHywVrFx+fL9AHW/ozxqA3SMAhmvxTZAW9PhRt5dmy xPQQvaF7rUhUGqkyEZbCe4g5gkJAtCI33qK4jv0pIi1UNIzO6fps9Y0K+Ak5LnOYxA p6Y51z1zprVlnDbpYSfz9UL4FD1kfBhJcdOe1Q/tXDN354/HCyx5lPVrkUA6a/wcND cYk7LM02Xk9/0bNdQY67bK5tM+TV0qXWotNU+LRsO5wBi2l7OOF7PjSPDrSumV1EVS NGbKiEYYy1KxyzWfusMSgo4IegF2szwyP7v16CDEWWL8+jd2Yzu15WvfOW/4OsFTzx rsT6MMQfqSiRg== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:265195 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 11:23 PM, uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU= Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote= : > ------- Original Message ------- > On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 6:00 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote= : >=20 >=20 >=20 > > tags 64597 notabug wontfix > > thanks > >=20 > > > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 21:25:29 +0000 > > > From: uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me > > > Cc: 64597@debbugs.gnu.org > > >=20 > > > > > When a window is reduced in size I find no way to be able to use = the mode-line tools. > > > >=20 > > > > What do you mean by "mode-line tools", and how short does the > > > > mode-line have to be in order to see the problems you see? > > > >=20 > > > > IOW, please provide a complete recipe to reproduce this problem, > > > > starting from "emacs -Q", so that the problem and the way to reprod= uce > > > > it will be clear. > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks. > > >=20 > > > Suppose I have a bunch of self-defined minor modes displayed in the m= odeline, > > > where the lighters have the capability of showing menus (e.g. Outl). > > >=20 > > > Now, consider I need an accessible modeline (i.e. one with big font a= nd bold weight). > > > Reducing the frame or window width makes the lighters at the far end = of the modeline > > > inaccessible for use. > >=20 > > You can try setting mode-line-compact non-nil. If even that doesn't > > solve your problem because you make your frames too narrow, or have > > too many minor mode lighters active at the same time, then there's > > nothing else Emacs can do: the fact that the mode line is a single > > screen line is currently a hard restriction in the design of the Emacs > > display, and so extra mode-line elements are truncated on display. >=20 >=20 > The compact setting replaces multiple spaces with a single space. It does > not really solve the problem. >=20 > Wontfix is not a good decision. Changes window sizes is a very common > occurrence. Having a hard restriction on the mode-line is quite bad desig= n > to continue working with. Especially when package-defined and self-define= d > minor modes are becoming quite common. =20 Could there be a way to move the lighters around ?