From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65186: 29.0.91; `dired-free-space' is a step backward Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 15:42:57 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83sf8rjuhu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5995"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "65186@debbugs.gnu.org" <65186@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 10 17:44:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qU7pl-0001NQ-9h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 17:44:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qU7pZ-0008SV-9W; 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The default behavior should be what we've always had, which > > corresponds to NONE of the `dired-free-space' option values. >=20 > The 'separate' value (which is not the default) produces the behavior > we had in Emacs 28 and older, so why do you say that "what we always > had corresponds to none" of the option's values? No, it doesn't. Not with `emacs -Q' on MS Windows (which uses ls-lisp), at= least. Not in 28.2 or ANY earlier release, going back to when `dired-hide= -details-mode' was first introduced. In all releases, if you use `(' to hi= de details then that "separate" line is one of the details that's _removed_= . > > 2. Even if you set the option to `separate', so you see the full info, > > you can't get the superior previous behavior, which is that there's _no > > such info_ shown when you hide details (`('). > > > > Instead, Someone(TM) maybe thought that those interested in what > > Someone(TM) doesn't think interesting - the full info - always want to > > see that info, even with details hidden. Blinders... >=20 > I think it was just an oversight, now fixed on the emacs-29 branch. Thank you very much, Eli. (I don't build Emacs, but I'm guessing you mean what I hope you mean. ;-)) IF all you changed was to make `separate' be the default or IF it was only = to hide all such info when hiding details, then that doesn't fix what I'd l= ike to see fixed. I'd like to see both: 1. The default behavior as it was before: when details aren't hidden, show = the full info on a separate line, and when details are hidden, don't show a= ny such info (available, used, etc.). 2. For _each_ of the option values: when details are hidden, don't show any= such info. (Unless you add a separate option value for something differen= t. At least let users get the old behavior exactly, as one possibility)=20