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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263769 Archived-At: > > > > I have no idea about how to effectively implement > > > > those filters, apart from implementing an advanced > > > > A.I., but then I would prefer dedicating > > > > the next 30 years of my life to something else. > > > > > > Well, then maybe someone will volunteer to do this job for you and > > > others, and call people's attention to discussions on the bug list > > > that might interest you and others. > > > > This seems like a cop-out, to me. >=20 > The Emacs developers are volunteers doing this job on their own free > time and as much as their resources allow. When there's something the > community would like to be done that the developers cannot afford > doing, it is customary to call for volunteers to fill that niche. > That's the spirit in Free Software projects developed by volunteers, > and there's nothing wrong with that, certainly not something that > deserves derogatory remarks such as the one above. You quoted out of context and went off on something else. My point was that, instead of relying on _anyone_ doing the suggested new job, it should be everyone's job in a bug-thread to move a discussion to emacs-devel if it ranges beyond the bug/improvement in question (and if it's to be continued at all), and especially if it seems to be leading toward a choice of whether to make wider changes. Not having everyone accept _that_ responsibility, and instead expecting some designated person to alone be responsible for calling emacs-devel attention to bug-list discussions that might be of interest, would seem to be a cop-out, yes - by all of us. And in particular by anyone in a bug thread who might be tempted to go ahead and make changes wider than the bug. Let's please try not to change big things in bug threads anymore. There's nothing derogatory, toward anyone, in what I wrote. Quite the contrary. Let's all assume this responsibility, and not push it onto some new role.=20 I called for us to manage bug threads in this regard, and not just expect some dedicated town-crier to alert emacs-devel. Let's together try to move discussion to emacs-devel when it goes beyond a particular bug and starts discussing wider possible changes. That's the problem to solve: move relevant discussion to emacs-devel. You proposed designating someone to be responsible for that. I said that would seem to be a cop-out; we should all be responsible, and in particular anyone considering making a change wider than what the bug calls for. Emacs-devel is the right place to discuss possible changes that are big. More eyeballs, more ideas, more corrections.