From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15402: 24.3; Emacs and Mac OS Dock bad launch behavior Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:21:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10088A94-BDA2-4B86-96EF-A1DE03E38737@gmail.com> <570386AE-EE19-49EB-B532-44F7F3705826@gmail.com> <05EB12CB-BD6F-40DB-A4D0-20990EC305B3@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379668953 32315 80.91.229.3 (20 Sep 2013 09:22:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15402@debbugs.gnu.org To: Constantine Vetoshev Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 20 11:22:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwv4-0002fb-JX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:22:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwv3-0000Gm-SX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:22:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41862) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwug-0008G9-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:22:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwuY-0007GZ-FE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwuY-0007GI-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwuY-0006L1-3b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15402.137966887324297 (code B ref 15402); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2013 09:21:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwtk-0006Jp-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:21:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.bdtv.se ([176.10.222.34]:54969) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMwth-0006JZ-Cl for 15402@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 12226 invoked by uid 89); 20 Sep 2013 09:21:07 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-57.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.57) by mail01.bdtv.se with ESMTPA; 20 Sep 2013 09:21:07 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (unknown [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE5F41A010E; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:21:06 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <05EB12CB-BD6F-40DB-A4D0-20990EC305B3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78605 Archived-At: Hello. 20 sep 2013 kl. 09:57 skrev Constantine Vetoshev : > On Sep 20, 2013, at 00:05, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: >> I agree that some of these settings should be taken into account. = Don't know which though. >> Maybe we should set utf-8-unix as default on OSX if LANG is not set?=20= >> FWIW M-x shell behaves correctly for me. >=20 >=20 > M-x shell does not use term.el, and it doesn't attempt to emulate a = real terminal. It stands to reason that it would behave completely = differently. I can't really avoid emulating the terminal for my use = case. I see. >=20 > Did you reproduce the ansi-term line handling bug I explained, with = the sample file I attached? Yes. > The main problem is that it does not go away with any of the = Emacs-specific utf-8-unix settings. It only goes away with a = correctly-set LANG. >=20 > We might be able to suggest a default LANG when it's not available (is = that what you meant?), but is there a valid non-locale-specific value = for it we can use? Mine is set to "en_US.UTF-8", and I thought LANG = requires a locale prefix. We obviously shouldn't just default to the = en_US locale. For this case, the language part is not really used, it is the UTF-8 = part that matters. Jan D.