From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Theodor Thornhill Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:59:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <86wn9ji3ma.fsf@gmail.com> <86tu4lsnqk.fsf@gmail.com> <8335c0p2fn.fsf@gnu.org> <83leproov6.fsf@gnu.org> <83fsfzonwn.fsf@gnu.org> <5a1e604c-4500-a476-da3d-259d9057a7f0@yandex.ru> <838rlromxu.fsf@gnu.org> <83h70dk3wf.fsf@gnu.org> <835ygqg1bh.fsf@gnu.org> <87ilkqbsp3.fsf@thornhill.no> <0ef04e1e-3f6c-31b6-4852-0c9c2c43b912@yandex.ru> <86h708ft1k.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33166"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Dmitry Gutov , eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Leake , Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 10:03:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oitBT-0008Pr-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 10:03:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44728 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oitBL-0007yM-UT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 04:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oishD-0003fM-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 03:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from out2.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:aacc::]:45398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oish8-0004JV-JH; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 03:31:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thornhill.no; s=key1; t=1665646309; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XzMxDDIuc5qW4x7Xrx7BNvx4DUFqsVxlxF+lBbQAjoc=; b=v3EhWFk3KlRQtLFmX2yg5hhCzvET5nmpeX+oOx9XqLKi6evhhdh9U67BnH7fnkap1yHzOT yWBFUP1/GkKMK8Nx41CYJGoGDrLGr0cTW9k/87d04zDcg3tAXJZoojrM/BXAdf1wQKKUO6 2/1MmdywbIxauBo0DgpAvqco0PZpEjwg/Q//UaU3w0p1LDYOVNOPNtGhlTSW+JoiDfKmzX MsuPGb9F7D6eHbNLLq2ZsFWYkbjzoyJi1vQIhozhCwOnvYTycMhSqvJ5v6+zaXBjAC+aU9 2OChExdyYygy/9DfPK/piyrL3MQI1SEKWyR8S4DZYZWYVei4Ga9SV1xOkczhcQ== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. In-Reply-To: <86h708ft1k.fsf@stephe-leake.org> X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:41d0:2:aacc::; envelope-from=theo@thornhill.no; helo=out2.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297660 Archived-At: On 13 October 2022 02:47:51 CEST, Stephen Leake wrote: >Richard Stallman writes: > >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example=2E ]]= ] >> >> > > Because all of the interaction between server and client in lsp i= s json >> > > there's a huge overhead with parsing and shipping things into the= emacs >> > > user interface=2E So IMO what tree-sitter is good at should be l= eft to >> > > tree-sitter=2E > >Premature optimization=2E > Why do you say that?=20 I've been using lsp for a long time, and typing lag can get unbearable wit= h servers that sends too much stuff=2E When 20k completions containing _ful= l_ documentation for every result that json gets humongous=2E Adding syntax= highlights on top of that isn't advisable, considering emacs nonmultithrea= ded nature=2E=20 >In practice, eglot is fast enough=2E That's why LSP servers are so >popular=2E > That does not mean piling on features will help=2E Eglot is fast exactly b= ecause we've been mindful on what has been added=2E=20