From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org,Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
Cc: enometh@meer.net
Subject: Re: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 10:52:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CF5D4DFC-5288-4D2C-AF4A-A7D1B267CAFF@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21rh1prap.fsf@gmail.com>
On November 10, 2020 10:08:46 AM GMT+02:00, Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com> wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 22:34:31 +0200
> >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >>
> >> Alan, is it possible to make 'minibuffer-follows-selected-frame'
> nil by
> >> default?
> >
> > If this is because the other value produces bugs, IMO we should fix
> > those bugs rather than make them less frequent (and thus harder to
> > detect) by flipping the default value.
>
> It is not producing bugs for me, but changes behavior.
>
> E.g. in emacs -Q:
>
> 1. Evaluate
> (select-frame-set-input-focus
> (make-frame '((minibuffer . only)
> (left . 1.0))))
> 2. M-x
> 3. C-x 5 o
>
> Before minibuffer-follows-selected-frame, the prompt stays in the
> minibuffer-only frame.
> On recent master, the prompt is moved to other frame leaving
> minibuffer-only frame empty. I can't report this as a bug. Just
> wondering why minibuffer-follows-selected-frame is set to t by
> default,
> potentially changing someone's expected behavior.
The defaults are selected for the common usage patterns. It is not clear to me that the test case you presented is common. But if it is, perhaps we do need to consider changing the default.
Does anyone else think this is common usage, to have a minibuffer-only frame while other frames also have minibuffers?
Alternatively, perhaps minibuffers activated in minibuffer-only frames should behave specially in this regard?
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2020-10-13 19:02 Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-13 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-13 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-13 20:25 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-13 20:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-13 21:02 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-14 14:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-14 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 16:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-14 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 18:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-14 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 19:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-15 13:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-15 18:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-15 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 15:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-21 16:49 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-21 19:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-21 18:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-21 19:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-21 20:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-22 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 20:42 ` C-x o is moving between frames. [Was: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers!] Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-23 20:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-24 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-24 15:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-24 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-24 19:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-30 22:09 ` Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-31 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31 16:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-31 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31 19:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-10-31 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31 20:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-01 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-01 20:52 ` Non-nested minibuffers (was: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers!) Stefan Monnier
2020-11-02 17:19 ` Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers! Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-02 18:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-02 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-03 21:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-04 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 17:39 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-09 15:09 ` Madhu
2020-11-09 20:34 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 8:08 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 8:52 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-10 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-10 17:27 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 22:43 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-11 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-10 22:54 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-10 23:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-11 7:47 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-11 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 20:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-14 13:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-14 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-14 18:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-14 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-14 19:24 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-14 21:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-15 8:48 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-19 10:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-19 11:40 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-19 13:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-20 18:47 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-20 21:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-20 21:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 9:02 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-21 10:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-21 11:55 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-21 12:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-21 15:53 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-22 10:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 15:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 17:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 19:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 17:57 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-22 18:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-23 9:10 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-23 13:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-23 14:22 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-23 16:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-23 18:08 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-23 20:16 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-24 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-23 20:22 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-23 20:26 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-24 8:47 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-24 8:46 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-24 10:25 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-24 11:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-24 19:24 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-25 9:25 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-25 21:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-25 21:31 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-25 21:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-25 22:23 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 10:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 10:36 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 10:47 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 11:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 12:03 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 11:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 12:03 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 15:42 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-27 15:54 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 17:14 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-27 17:43 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 18:08 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-27 20:02 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 15:44 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-26 20:32 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 7:33 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-27 9:34 ` martin rudalics
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2020-11-28 10:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
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2020-11-28 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-11-28 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-11-28 22:10 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-11-29 18:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 10:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 10:36 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-27 11:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-27 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-11-27 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-11-27 22:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
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