* menu command @ 2018-08-27 9:45 Lajos Bodnar 2018-08-27 11:21 ` tomas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-27 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Hi, I'd like to know what is the "visit new file" command in the menubar. This command can open a filedialog ... I tried to find it but ... regards, Lajos ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: menu command 2018-08-27 9:45 menu command Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-27 11:21 ` tomas 2018-08-27 12:19 ` Lajos Bodnar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: tomas @ 2018-08-27 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:45:30AM +0200, Lajos Bodnar wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to know what is the "visit new file" command in the menubar. > This command can open a filedialog ... > I tried to find it but ... I'm not sure I understand your question, but let me try :-) "Visit new file" is there to open an existent file or to create a new file. It is the usual way to open files in Emacs, also bound to the key sequence C-x C-f. This is what I always use (I don't use menus very often in Emacs). "Open file" (just one down in the menu) will only let you open existing files, i.e. you can't create a new one. Perhaps it is there to prevent mistakes (e.g. by mis-typing a name) when you expect that the file already exists. Perhaps a way to find out such things in Emacs is C-h C-k ("describe key"). You first type C-h C-k (i.e. <CONTROL>-h then <CONTROL>-k), and then you click on the menu entry you are trying to understand. Then you get a description of the function behind that menu entry (this works also for keyboard shortcuts). Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAluD3s4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZgDACaAlkhmXfr5Yfjbie6kveDPUb7 QGYAn388CvGbLcptfchQUfHn1t3j4k+9 =aAFO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: menu command 2018-08-27 11:21 ` tomas @ 2018-08-27 12:19 ` Lajos Bodnar 2018-08-27 13:03 ` tomas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-27 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tomas; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Thanks, I haven't found command in the "describe-key" result which open a filedialog. I found a description that I can open a filedialog with the getfile.exe which is an external program ... I created an external program to linux too but then I realized that there is a solution in emacs when I use "visit ..." menu item. I wouldn't like to find out this solution again ... :) regards, Lajos On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:22 PM <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:45:30AM +0200, Lajos Bodnar wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to know what is the "visit new file" command in the menubar. > > This command can open a filedialog ... > > I tried to find it but ... > > I'm not sure I understand your question, but let me try :-) > > "Visit new file" is there to open an existent file or to create > a new file. It is the usual way to open files in Emacs, also > bound to the key sequence C-x C-f. This is what I always use > (I don't use menus very often in Emacs). > > "Open file" (just one down in the menu) will only let you open > existing files, i.e. you can't create a new one. Perhaps it is > there to prevent mistakes (e.g. by mis-typing a name) when you > expect that the file already exists. > > Perhaps a way to find out such things in Emacs is C-h C-k ("describe > key"). You first type C-h C-k (i.e. <CONTROL>-h then <CONTROL>-k), > and then you click on the menu entry you are trying to understand. > Then you get a description of the function behind that menu > entry (this works also for keyboard shortcuts). > > Cheers > - -- tomás > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAluD3s4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZgDACaAlkhmXfr5Yfjbie6kveDPUb7 > QGYAn388CvGbLcptfchQUfHn1t3j4k+9 > =aAFO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: menu command 2018-08-27 12:19 ` Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-27 13:03 ` tomas 2018-08-27 13:38 ` Lajos Bodnar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: tomas @ 2018-08-27 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lajos Bodnar; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 02:19:24PM +0200, Lajos Bodnar wrote: > Thanks, > I haven't found command in the "describe-key" result which open a > filedialog. Ah, I think I get it now: what confuses you is the opening of a GUI like file dialog? If I got you right this time, the best answer is in the source code: `find-file' calls `find-file-read-args' to to ask the user which file name (s)he wants. This one calls `read-file-name', which has a pretty extensive documentation string. I insert the relevant part here: If this command was invoked with the mouse, use a graphical file dialog if ‘use-dialog-box’ is non-nil, and the window system or X toolkit in use provides a file dialog box, and DIR is not a remote file. For graphical file dialogs, any of the special values of MUSTMATCH ‘confirm’ and ‘confirm-after-completion’ are treated as equivalent to nil. Some graphical file dialogs respect a MUSTMATCH value of t, and some do not (or it only has a cosmetic effect, and does not actually prevent the user from entering a non-existent file). So this is the mechanism which adapts to how the user invoked `find-file': if the user used keys, then the question appears in the minibuffer, but if the user clicked on a menu, (s)he gets a GUI-like file browser (to me that makes a lot of sense). I hope I've understood your question better now. Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAluD9oQACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYXNACfYdvSKA/fgTkT/FYC9v4cp6mE YiwAniDADh9f6yZgxZvI7lnoKG26Um/l =cJi4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: menu command 2018-08-27 13:03 ` tomas @ 2018-08-27 13:38 ` Lajos Bodnar 2018-08-28 16:13 ` Lajos Bodnar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-27 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tomas; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Hi Tomas, Yes it's a correct answer. I found it before and I haven't seen that it's working only if I use the mouse ... I'd like to avoid the mouse click and external program (getfile.exe) in this case. thanks again! regards, Lajos On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:03 PM <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 02:19:24PM +0200, Lajos Bodnar wrote: > > Thanks, > > I haven't found command in the "describe-key" result which open a > > filedialog. > > Ah, I think I get it now: what confuses you is the opening > of a GUI like file dialog? > > If I got you right this time, the best answer is in the > source code: > > `find-file' calls `find-file-read-args' to to ask the user which > file name (s)he wants. This one calls `read-file-name', which has > a pretty extensive documentation string. I insert the relevant > part here: > > If this command was invoked with the mouse, use a graphical file > dialog if ‘use-dialog-box’ is non-nil, and the window system or X > toolkit in use provides a file dialog box, and DIR is not a > remote file. For graphical file dialogs, any of the special values > of MUSTMATCH ‘confirm’ and ‘confirm-after-completion’ are > treated as equivalent to nil. Some graphical file dialogs respect > a MUSTMATCH value of t, and some do not (or it only has a cosmetic > effect, and does not actually prevent the user from entering a > non-existent file). > > So this is the mechanism which adapts to how the user invoked `find-file': > if the user used keys, then the question appears in the minibuffer, but > if the user clicked on a menu, (s)he gets a GUI-like file browser (to > me that makes a lot of sense). > > I hope I've understood your question better now. > > Cheers > - -- tomás > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAluD9oQACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYXNACfYdvSKA/fgTkT/FYC9v4cp6mE > YiwAniDADh9f6yZgxZvI7lnoKG26Um/l > =cJi4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: menu command 2018-08-27 13:38 ` Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-28 16:13 ` Lajos Bodnar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Lajos Bodnar @ 2018-08-28 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: tomas; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs I found the correct and working answer here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26483918/bind-file-open-file-with-gui-dialog-to-c-o-as-global-set-key Thanks again Tomas! On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:38 PM Lajos Bodnar <bodnarlajoska@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tomas, > Yes it's a correct answer. I found it before and I haven't seen that it's > working only if I use the mouse ... > I'd like to avoid the mouse click and external program (getfile.exe) in > this case. > > thanks again! > > regards, > Lajos > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:03 PM <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 02:19:24PM +0200, Lajos Bodnar wrote: >> > Thanks, >> > I haven't found command in the "describe-key" result which open a >> > filedialog. >> >> Ah, I think I get it now: what confuses you is the opening >> of a GUI like file dialog? >> >> If I got you right this time, the best answer is in the >> source code: >> >> `find-file' calls `find-file-read-args' to to ask the user which >> file name (s)he wants. This one calls `read-file-name', which has >> a pretty extensive documentation string. I insert the relevant >> part here: >> >> If this command was invoked with the mouse, use a graphical file >> dialog if ‘use-dialog-box’ is non-nil, and the window system or X >> toolkit in use provides a file dialog box, and DIR is not a >> remote file. For graphical file dialogs, any of the special values >> of MUSTMATCH ‘confirm’ and ‘confirm-after-completion’ are >> treated as equivalent to nil. Some graphical file dialogs respect >> a MUSTMATCH value of t, and some do not (or it only has a cosmetic >> effect, and does not actually prevent the user from entering a >> non-existent file). >> >> So this is the mechanism which adapts to how the user invoked `find-file': >> if the user used keys, then the question appears in the minibuffer, but >> if the user clicked on a menu, (s)he gets a GUI-like file browser (to >> me that makes a lot of sense). >> >> I hope I've understood your question better now. >> >> Cheers >> - -- tomás >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAluD9oQACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYXNACfYdvSKA/fgTkT/FYC9v4cp6mE >> YiwAniDADh9f6yZgxZvI7lnoKG26Um/l >> =cJi4 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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