From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Melville <6tricky9@gmail.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: kill your darlings Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 09:42:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86v9wvy62j.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="179608"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 24 10:43:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hfKZ7-000kZ2-8d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:43:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48846 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hfKZ6-0008JR-5A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:43:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from <6tricky9@gmail.com>) id 1hfKYU-0007xL-M0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <6tricky9@gmail.com>) id 1hfKYT-0004MY-42 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-io1-xd32.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32]:46908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <6tricky9@gmail.com>) id 1hfKYS-0004IC-Ry for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 04:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd32.google.com with SMTP id i10so484006iol.13 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 01:42:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Pf5LpdBf++ays2SXFddNUzVjPLuRNtRpxQr9tHq0nYo=; b=SR3zhG0gK9+TkD3+CflOG0NoB3FLHzKelasj/8HNLAgG/kY6r3Vo2SFuTAqlAGazPG m9KD8biO+BaJBjnHHOf8qvlL7iMFJqj0pE8qEIqJSITQM7jW5pEm7dWVzysRCUJFQXQI aW+5XSnw30QnEdNtZ0m0OcFtbYuKzh29RgrZPuJUngf1jWWZmlJm29cK8wIGBUG+/pbP 8SjCLZ9t0wVIgM8J4t6l9+IDeFG0cjrStYTSG33pW3DcLr+cN6d5TnCG5yYIpz+0ScMP ycVuDudGE+7dHmEmMjFIakUv19NE9XMl1Za+9WjsYsHxV8x3yUKyboVP/AX8D+ZwGE9z t/Lg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Pf5LpdBf++ays2SXFddNUzVjPLuRNtRpxQr9tHq0nYo=; b=lwIy3Z9hnVWhYQl3PkOxDoEUmZR//6hA2NFPwqW4zvdcRSMbGHpEeV/u1m9n/jXH2q 7qAXicu4FrS8bgJRdILNihRrWXj1Rgn4VdJbu/9MM3ZWJi51LADgKD1kyGic+aPmAdY8 sZrJR1Ic+qT8X5QcN8Z0UjYlxUObYZWwhgq4hBHk4u9tVCtBIQTdwy5p2V/x8WBE6Mrm rBeutFp/Lr8/cPh7JROS8i57Byrdqu94gAIoHr27iixzdRa2G4qBgZChz1geIM0YG4ln GTyZSivYtUNjmsVzC6Hpq0YZNYPV+3UBKJ8arurOj9cbYStFkX+hqgTPfFKHFyFkLmv6 s3MA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV+1Fj1KK0NI13NJ+9aHyd7a5PUeMDLQvDbpVqojQnfMYqXXSwD CTx/KiODX76c1je2mvCzq6onHJDxDT658Sguk1E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzZMQgLEWi0qLy4q4s6gcNPQaRBsVr4DWjo0TkAlNrQ6KyaNujDOlIT5x0NFJAGYLDnyq8dlDh1TApMdR7MoAE= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8844:: with SMTP id t4mr35292291ios.91.1561365742172; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 01:42:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86v9wvy62j.fsf@zoho.eu> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d32 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121027 Archived-At: On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 05:13, Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs < help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote: > Everyone knows that everyone use their favorite > constructs in peach and in writing. E.g., > I like to use "e.g.", and I like to end > sentences with something like "for sure" - > no doubt :) > > On a mailing list this is not really a problem. > But for e.g. in a relationship in can become > very enervating, without exaggerating :) (Okay, > you get it, I'll stop now. Or will I...) > > We can't (?) program our relationships with > Elisp, but I wonder if there is a tool or > method to detect "darlings" in a text. > For example, I'm writing a LaTeX text now - it > isn't even halfway done, but currently at > 1965 lines, I have used the word "emellertid" > 8 times (it means "however" but sounds more > stiff and old-fashioned) - and if I weren't > aware of it, it'd be a good idea if Emacs could > tell me I overused the word, so I could > consider removing some of them. And perhaps > (actually it is likely) there are other of my > "darlings" that I *am* unaware of! > > The kind of stuff I described first, with > sentence constructions and so on, I get it it > is probably very difficult for a computer > program to detect. But overuse of words could > be as simple as > > - count all words > > - see what words are the most common > > - are there word there that much longer than > the others? warn the user about possible > overuse > > - obviously, if one is writing a paper on the > mating process of the Trigonosaurus, one > would simply disregard the recommendation to > not use that wierd word all the time > > - to compare the text to the Internet would be > a possibility, but I don't really like it. > It would mean the program would try to make > you write like everyone else. That's not the > point: the point is to make you aware of > something, that you might be unaware of! > > Is there anything like that going on anywhere > in the Emacs world? > > -- > underground experts united > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 > https://dataswamp.org/~incal Yes, it's called proofreading. Richard