From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 00:32:49 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87lf633wc3.fsf@zoho.eu> <21691570.QVqMGgByyo@galex-713.eu> <878s20dwmf.fsf@zoho.eu> <87y2a0cfpa.fsf@zoho.eu> <87r1fscb0o.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31865"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 22 19:33:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6cZe-00087K-Ao for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 19:33:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48138 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6cZd-0007J3-BY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6cZF-0007G0-K4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:33:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ua1-x92d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::92d]:44750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6cZD-0005nu-1c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 13:33:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ua1-x92d.google.com with SMTP id e7so2359187uaj.11 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NJgM6CPBMUtdDRYxO/Gy49QBYPRqZfHYogXQZ1x+634=; b=S1IpMsR6v5mb8ooPINFAXKPzBKrUXA6yGPRVZxg5CcQGWn8P9Jna7yoVeUE15y89Vo 4E5QZ/u/27YWtZOHKs1q0THI5AVp8FyJR9g887u3nL2lRwgRcCYi1CFnKDGKXHdKWOU1 nE24w8OTQhUl+LUy/nWZ8vIX/JlGrlWhozM0xK+PjWWuI3HKa9m+THUacpBbloJE/PyV lxC+LLSmsAOTh2ha9XQdNFS+iBXNUMZV0/bIpEoNqfoLZtg+9N8HKTFkwmv2IyaRhjSj Dg1SUrVOt/Gj73FtrzcJIz115lqtgOSztU1IZkDglDJUlbTQCWPhWS2TAqfgy12KJp72 M1VA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NJgM6CPBMUtdDRYxO/Gy49QBYPRqZfHYogXQZ1x+634=; b=CH2y0I7SHWfnxIXksC1Gp84RFw2+FtV0xl+dtuiD8mXzil8jf66zyuYOMS9wA+zth2 z6nlde1dsFRvYE4Puray9PpJEy9uEbx1IPG1p8G3mgXStxOFz/+vxxcgGBluleK7xq1x ozfyDvdG8w/IT4/VIa6MV+buWsEzdgZjxstHPpG4WLcSMD0C4cffqE6UuQmK7O6o6N+p 6KBOSxS5FgIWUfayJ4qL3T5GLbpJ/V1mS7eGygAdC73vKu4jCLY3B0FpqYnEDThXh+9l 8Qu2wdM87YKXUP3m9na0PY78YiGo3qZlwHzlWftOHNY0KxEklATjAfHKsHx5OJdUUIW0 Ihhg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qsNAvfsBc7gqosG3l/Z7XYDkFqV4JOnIxoZes542uHX85cBXC Pa7eDRjdXW7VlZJHmYhMpXfjKgvp39zbTipOJpU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+aNSFs3PxUE3oA8ZGgoeM8iexKnOWGaRqMdTW5a/mkeub8Wr7CeBdqEC3dLsAnTXU4CwG6gtEq5YQNvF10yg= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:2c47:: with SMTP id s7mr1421535uaj.24.1626975181493; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r1fscb0o.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::92d; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-ua1-x92d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132049 Archived-At: On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 15:55, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Translating huge books is just an immense wasted effort that > also have several negative effects that I've mentioned > already. For example this book > > @book{introduction-to-algorithms, > author =3D {Cormen and Leiserson and Rivest and Stein}, > edition =3D {2nd edition}, > isbn =3D {0-268-53196-8}, > publisher =3D {MIT Press}, > title =3D {Introduction to Algorithms}, > year =3D {2001} > } > > It is 1184 pages! > > And that format (book heft) isn't uncommon! > > Are you going to translate this to French because some French > guys aren't good enough English readers? [This one?][1] It has been translated into Russian and it is being sold at ~73 USD. Which is a lot for a book, and still it seems there is demand for it. (As for me, if I personally wanted to own a copy of that book, I could probably buy it in English on Amazon for cheaper. I=E2=80=99ve seen enough books whose translations were inaccurate, inelegant or any combination of the above.) [1]: https://www.ozon.ru/product/algoritmy-postroenie-i-analiz-33769775/