From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should Text motion commands have no menu entry? Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 09:04:36 +0600 Message-ID: References: <83fv6vfece.fsf@gnu.org> <55594F1F.3020201@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431918319 14718 80.91.229.3 (18 May 2015 03:05:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 03:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers To: Vaidheeswaran C Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 18 05:05:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YuBMe-0003GQ-8o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 05:05:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39013 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuBMd-00047Z-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 23:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50723) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuBMR-000478-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 23:05:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuBMQ-0006hl-PT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 23:04:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]:36102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YuBMP-0006hT-Az; Sun, 17 May 2015 23:04:57 -0400 Original-Received: by lagv1 with SMTP id v1so199251100lag.3; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:04:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WHwC+Y/hF1kUjS/hR3zWZc56tPNmKIZnmzY7blInSAA=; b=0CyimNpqVJS2taFx5x42vlm4PLxmF+X95a+KRcpw1SmFzFG+B4C20q/jh2b4GsYjzb YGFSay5kKOx0l8IdrLB04cu7Gu+QwFIjTm2HLnMKAf4yNcOLvpMSiy/IyldkFljN7wDD T53XbqwxUARlx4UsMev3yd4CCsFYeL7K0lUaGiS530AHQuA2Q/o4feZG6O1QTbxnT+TU lehKyj2opSkQHPJhrptKnZUNDVPxQ2SV8AiLGT1eRAHneuP9dXtoluh2zr0+4CaFHFtJ ZRkPYw1bx6xwh6SJZkUjY/LkuRxrrd9M21NekTq3BSec6rE8ChIluhHhCQ4Wu++jv0HA lffw== X-Received: by 10.152.170.136 with SMTP id am8mr16082053lac.102.1431918296563; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.43.65 with HTTP; Sun, 17 May 2015 20:04:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55594F1F.3020201@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: jE1RPcbHRulIu0qAwef1RTNUCQY X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186567 Archived-At: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Vaidheeswaran C wrote: > Does Notepad (or any of the other editors) support motion by sentences > and paragraphs and pages? Is it possible they have no entries for > these because they don't support it? Word and LibreOffice Writer do support motion by pages and a few other things. LibreOffice does not have menu entries for these by default, but has three small toolbuttons below the vertical scrollbar. (Word does not even *have* a menu since the advent of the Ribbon interface in 2007.) The LibreOffice Writer Help has an index entry named =E2=80=9CShortcut Keys for LibreOffice Writer=E2=80=9D, which lists keys for moving by character, word, line, paragraph and screen page, but not keys for these medium-distance jumps. The Customize dialog reveals that they are not bound to any keys by default. (But Customize is an advanced feature that can both alter key bindings and add menu items.) I vaguely recall that Word bound medium-distance jumps to something like Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn and that binding was modal =E2=80=94 it jumped by pages= by default, but you could click a button and choose another object type and it would jump by those objects thereafter.