From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Characters saved mismatch? Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 15:56:32 +0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1494147452 12958 195.159.176.226 (7 May 2017 08:57:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 08:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 07 10:57:28 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1d7I0N-0003El-Aj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 10:57:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54198 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7I0R-0001bn-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 04:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7Hzs-0001bi-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 04:56:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7Hzr-0002vS-P1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 04:56:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]:37698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1d7Hzr-0002vL-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 May 2017 04:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id m123so36459667wma.0 for ; Sun, 07 May 2017 01:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=afQTadHBO+UjiYcg6LOT2Bwc0uCgVCe6L+tbb5Ep+bU=; b=b11I/89lQKGeDkLVvnSDcByIK7qyIr0YlVhjZuc339ovVpBaUgCWSTCXF18kMJGmdg 0Zs4NaeMe7IFWYydFda8Lu2VGK8n86UOPUs6zkLDCa2eSwh725B1JgSkv9o6LVmHlbO6 Tv2tt4hAbCxTMZoXcccEl5Txl85gQqiHqn9SJsxFfDkxTDJpPem+oEkrgj5RUi+PY1vp yF9N3PSnIDad1Lp8RCLo2Y+u/uygRUI6EfCZGWvJ28HurQcAlWfoEhsc+XlvjMI5eABJ 74JJZ41RbIA0GIlJxwUkuquyHW2HIl7McI5FHjYIVPI9cOGM7SMSX5bPYOI2/y9gwkbz DTzA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=afQTadHBO+UjiYcg6LOT2Bwc0uCgVCe6L+tbb5Ep+bU=; b=E/BnrmXUuCBZSKrTKJP2fnGajtgufsaXEsxGElFr22LhHjvw1THf5aMmKrzF4S6y43 X+qwkZ/fu9EBaBqoPZN0J+Ay3XHvgw/2FB9ZLYLQtFUmcikItr5OySb3CYAD7z+MJokG s1yL89AlaMSJibG/nNKogQxDnPj5nQYB59AVNYQLHPxHeAaN0urET4lLg1kGuUkr/xo6 Vp9gXr0XFITzu3Z0vQl5c/PVMSwDQEBvM+5Vd/bEOwhG0/bMvndVCjeSBHAj2PzOqhtd 5GfS61U65mdd5DfW+deeD9mZqgan2h6fv+Pqb4LYZuokHEW4TnmVwca0KlD7d2rMZ0rE gUBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/7RWID5kvgF2XHYLNemVIL86vn/xBxjD5IstIz1hgLipSL/YAo/ CdqieOXrOIwQdmM2LZ+9tssc8mjBig== X-Received: by 10.28.217.193 with SMTP id q184mr9411938wmg.111.1494147412656; Sun, 07 May 2017 01:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.163.196 with HTTP; Sun, 7 May 2017 01:56:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: czE-xtxue0GkCJmwIglctEdFAKs X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:214653 Archived-At: On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Angelo Graziosi wrote: > Wrote =E2=80=98c:/msys64/tmp/foo.text=E2=80=99 (8 characters) > > but > > ls -l foo.text > -rw-r--r-- 1 bingo bongo 10 7 mag 01.07 foo.text > > 10 bytes! You are comparing a character count against a byte count. Well *of course* they are going to be different. The assumption =E2=80=9Cone charact= er is encoded by one byte=E2=80=9D has been false for quite a while now.