From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Ctrl-[ ? Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:31:02 +0700 Message-ID: References: <08AC8151-5911-40FA-8B20-818B839D00AB@traduction-libre.org> <6F55E018-B15E-42B0-8794-21F55BBA23D3@traduction-libre.org> <34E3289C-10EE-4A23-AEE4-80D984DB2EDE@gnu.org> <6A538FF9-94C8-491D-B1B9-5C0D09FE7C39@acm.org> <838suesw93.fsf@gnu.org> <3580dbb9-73a8-d26a-5466-5799e3726c34@gmail.com> <83tvd2rd8b.fsf@gnu.org> <83woht9ysw.fsf@gnu.org> <874l4w5e2o.fsf@md5i.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="218909"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Emacs developers To: Michael Welsh Duggan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 11 18:39:58 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hajoU-000unt-3X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:39:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60912 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hajoT-00051s-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46913) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hajgI-0000iE-4X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:31:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hajgE-0004Gz-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:31:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::536]:33790) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hajgC-0004CH-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:31:26 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id h9so21036461edr.0 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:31:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SYKTVMU4oyF0LjTtdFIzfz2FpiTvmDoJq/E+hWNGsjE=; b=d+w2pQ8eBZnqTiZ1yueO8GGNGIJ1cWaQZ/Wc7CN5+BDpJTeY/6CWYzOAKjyPnpkINz FgV3UVL16Q2kov6E34YyIT8W5zPvZFKw3fS0kcxYdYqszEUiZ88iGYEHRo/Li8h3Tc1N qq+ShN74eoeby/IzPS5ga8im23hnsbfzQDuYKIt76WbEh9bwfH5Pfo3MpvCXOpGoQ9ko 0M3ehZ07BaftIzCKckAQQYDlWyOWfSU+HYG0TkN2IFvROuICxF87P7rlxudXUJiBVaMp OmRgIrj9i4Y9J6Wh7nrK4QoAYvlllYpqBuHrdfJnVeyxOAvzoorSDfywfjPUbLuxWE7h EtSw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SYKTVMU4oyF0LjTtdFIzfz2FpiTvmDoJq/E+hWNGsjE=; b=WjNaBnNtBS/5ThGVipESZ7CjPodfgyY4evzwRIfLHscdNw3JzRo6D2S2pNtmDFCTJl OVUnNd95yi9ATwkli8ZS7tjrk14csQgGgNVpn8ya2UKf8SvaCNJsoVySdgmZ4hg/5lhu IA8viPdMWDfs/qm4+/8Ua3Dv4BM0AsWZJJu/OVRs6BBnqfnTokgQ/lS3yBgUAzmLbMpf Wg10ZQvu73LDUBMTkXVKrHKjsD6VbJMPyaYfVmonp9J/705ytgBUODGQsOCsjG+v+qey D+1rLbLvGGFzNJsogjdK4FThBwIXfYgOfLDIPVSeBjkqkDFibTuhlndF9URlJ5g+oVpc itvw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUbeBdvpyL0055RPo3vTc5xcW58/HN+q/6bSxFxHP1fTBYOWR8/ fQe+AtmoLhMshrGYbyMj1Zbqk7s/bhXfukqYf5w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxcl2lZHOOgVpc900FQFzd51XxzyX3hPEpIv01UuqZg9OVkSYygY8LT8+U7cQvEds1m6Xz7t6y70Fn9uM3d3dI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1496:: with SMTP id x22mr43766349ejc.191.1560270676145; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:31:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874l4w5e2o.fsf@md5i.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::536 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237437 Archived-At: On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:49 PM Michael Welsh Duggan wrote: > To play devil's advocate, though, we wouldn't want this to lead to > people producing public modes whose default keybindings depend on this > translation not happening. Hmm... I may have just talked myself around > to not wanting the option. This ship has sailed =E2=80=94 we have Org.