From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Edit Wikipedia Article directly in Emacs? 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The specifics of Mediawiki is that you can have templates that effectively extend the markup language, and this is widely used in Wikipedia and its sister wikis. A quick experiment shows that Pandoc silently drops most template inclusions. So if you take the source of a wiki page, convert it to Org with pandoc, edit it in Org, then convert back to mediawiki format and save, you will annoy moderators, who will then be tempted to just revert your change without spending time to pick out useful parts from overall formatting destruction.