From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Wayne Harris <wharris1@protonmail.com>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs"
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 02:55:11 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8VyoOHg7ZJgNiBOM3HBrHUjKWLv3XtwaPPJhwSiCWyt9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4276dbad-f8ed-4a5d-8960-800b4b059a61@default>
On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 02:03, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> > The name of the application in the title is useful. It helps you pick
> > the Emacs window out of multiple applications operating on the same
> > file. For example, a Dired buffer showing a directory and Thunar
> > showing the same directory.
> >
> > This is important in contexts where the window contents are not
> > visible, e.g. a taskbar showing minimized windows, or a
> > tiling/tabbing/stacking window manager such as i3 showing a single
> > window in the stack and the titles of all other windows in the same
> > stack.
>
> The discussion is about the _default_ frame title.
> Users can define their own title formatting.
Users should not have to customize the title for the common case.
Which I believe to be multiple applications on the desktop.
> How common is the use of multiple applications
> (in separate window-mgr windows) for the same
> file or directory (or other argument)?
>
> (Not a rhetorical question - that's never been my
> experience.)
>
> Wrt your examples of a file or dir, showing the
> buffer name should be even more specific, and
> even better distinguish from some other app
> window for the same file or dir, no? Especially
> if the other app puts its app name first in the
> title.
All well-behaved applications in many desktops (Windows, XFCE, GNOME,
KDE) show the document name and their own application name in the
title bar. It’s a convention, and it’s useful because this way
application authors do not have to consider whether a document name
alone is enough for the user to distinguish the window. Somebody has
already thought this through and decided that both components are
useful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-28 19:55 UTC|newest]
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2020-08-26 22:09 Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Stefan Kangas
2020-08-26 22:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 23:12 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 5:28 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 5:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 6:56 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 15:04 ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-27 16:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 17:02 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:28 ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28 0:17 ` Wayne Harris via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-28 4:44 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 8:56 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-28 19:03 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 19:55 ` Yuri Khan [this message]
2020-08-28 20:36 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 20:40 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-28 21:18 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29 8:39 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 16:35 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-29 17:01 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-29 18:25 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 20:19 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 6:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 7:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 8:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 8:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 14:35 ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-27 14:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27 15:39 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-28 1:04 ` James Cloos
2020-08-28 4:46 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-28 19:09 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 19:22 ` Colin Baxter
2020-08-28 20:07 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 9:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-28 13:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-29 23:08 ` James Cloos
2020-08-28 19:29 ` Tassilo Horn
2020-08-27 6:52 ` tomas
2020-08-27 9:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-27 9:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:06 ` Pip Cet
2020-08-27 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:36 ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-27 18:08 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 17:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-27 17:52 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 22:06 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-28 23:39 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-29 1:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-30 23:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31 7:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 14:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 14:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-31 14:52 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-31 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-31 15:48 ` Stefan Kangas
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2020-08-27 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:59 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 16:42 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 17:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 17:50 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 18:15 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 19:13 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-08-27 19:20 ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-27 17:49 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:19 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 18:10 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:22 ` Michael Albinus
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2020-08-27 18:14 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:19 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-27 18:30 ` Michael Albinus
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2020-08-27 18:34 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 18:51 ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-27 20:01 ` Drew Adams
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2020-08-28 19:16 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31 5:26 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31 7:34 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 18:23 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-08-31 12:02 ` Colin Baxter
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2020-08-27 15:10 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 15:14 ` tomas
2020-08-27 15:24 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27 16:00 ` tomas
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2020-08-31 14:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-31 20:00 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 3:22 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-09-01 14:54 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-01 17:00 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-01 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
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