From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: look@strawberrytea.xyz, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ffap.el: Exclude angle brackets from file names in XML
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 17:30:50 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8VcxqOJHd+_YPKcZpTwfb+x10=3uqN7E_dD5irP8=GhRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86cys2wmmr.fsf@gnu.org>
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 14:51, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Tags do not inherently mean anything in XML. Only a specific XML-based
> > format definition gives them meaning, and there is no way for either a
> > doctype definition or an XML Schema to say “elements named X
> > definitely contain file names”. The closest is XML Schema’s anyURI
> > datatype, but it might refer not necessarily to a local file but
> > possibly to any other URI-addressed resource.
>
> Are you saying that applications using XML hard-code the meaning of
> each tag that they need to process? IOW, how does a program using
> such an XML know that the value is a file name?
XML is a generic framework for designing formats. Each application
designs a specific schema that defines which tags mean what.
For example, XHTML is an XML subtype in which the <img> element can
have a src="…" attribute which contains an URI. In particular, it
might contain a file name.
For another example, SVG is an XML subtype that does not define an
<img> element; <img> is invalid if used in an SVG document. On the
other hand, SVG has an <image> element whose href="…" attribute
contains an URI.
A program typically does not work with arbitrary XML. It works with a
specific XML subtype, like OpenOffice with ODF (which is a ZIP archive
containing, among others, some XML files) and Inkscape with SVG. In
case an application is capable of understanding multiple XML-based
formats, it must know beforehand which particular format a document is
an instance of.
For example, when Firefox receives an HTTP response with a
‘Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml’ header, it interprets the
response body as XHTML page; but with a ‘Content-Type: image/svg+xml’,
it processes the body as an SVG image.
(I did not expect you’d need a lecture on this.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-10 10:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-09 21:37 [PATCH] ffap.el: Exclude angle brackets from file names in XML StrawberryTea
2024-03-10 5:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-10 6:04 ` LemonBreezes
2024-03-10 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-10 7:20 ` Yuri Khan
2024-03-10 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-10 10:30 ` Yuri Khan [this message]
2024-03-10 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-10 12:17 ` Yuri Khan
2024-03-10 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-10 13:15 ` Yuri Khan
2024-03-10 13:53 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-03-14 9:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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