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From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Emanuel Berg <moasenwood@zoho.eu>,
	help-gnu-emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: avoid narrow-to-region (was: Re: replace-regexp)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 13:34:04 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8VP0g-Z5bC1hRCM+c+9cCBA8LTdNgVRtaNxfCyZ3Rb0qg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsywtp3f.fsf@zoho.eu>

On Sun, 9 May 2021 at 13:10, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU
Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:

> > * Consistency: If (f a b) returns t once, it must return
> > t when called again with the same arguments. [...]
>
> But here, we want to randomize _every time_.

Every time you do a random shuffle, but not within a single shuffle.

A theoretically sound (but still unnecessarily slow) sorting-based
shuffle would first assign a random weight to each line, and then sort
by that weight.

But contrast with this:

* Count the lines to be shuffled. Call it N.
* Generate a random number K_1 from 1 to N. Swap line 1 with line K_1.
* Generate a random number K_2 from 2 to N. Swap line 2 with line K_2.
…
* Generate a random number K_{N-1} from N-1 to N. Swap line N-1 with
line K_{N-1}.

Almost easy enough to put in Elisp, and guarantees uniform
distribution (as long as individual random indexes are uniformly
distributed).



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-09  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-06 23:06 replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-07  6:54 ` replace-regexp Tassilo Horn
2021-05-07 18:28   ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08  0:02     ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08  0:16       ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08  5:38       ` replace-regexp Yuri Khan
2021-05-08 13:53         ` replace-regexp Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 18:41           ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 18:50             ` replace-regexp Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 21:59               ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 22:03                 ` replace-regexp Tassilo Horn
2021-05-08 22:25                   ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 22:54                     ` [External] : replace-regexp Drew Adams
2021-05-09  2:48             ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 18:46           ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 21:10             ` replace-regexp Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 21:54               ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 23:11                 ` replace-regexp Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 23:16                   ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 23:46                     ` replace-regexp Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 23:51                       ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09  7:38                       ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-08 22:59           ` avoid narrow-to-region (was: Re: replace-regexp) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09  5:48             ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-09  6:09               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09  6:34                 ` Yuri Khan [this message]
2021-05-09  6:59                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09  7:22                     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-09  7:40                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09 10:06                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-09 10:54                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09 12:27                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-09 12:43                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09 13:14                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09 14:04                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-09 15:13                               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-21 17:35                                 ` same sound random sort everywhere (was: Re: avoid narrow-to-region (was: Re: replace-regexp)) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-21 20:12                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-21 20:47                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-07  8:02 ` replace-regexp Jean Louis
2021-05-07 18:29   ` replace-regexp Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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