From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: docstrings and elisp reference Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:27:30 +0700 Message-ID: References: <0BB64F35-233A-471F-B99F-51F96C4E6CCB@gmail.com> <8360g99n07.fsf@gnu.org> <86lgp4q2xa.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <7acc7d4f-23cc-4b6a-b062-ef92805e465b@default> <878tl3rz38.fsf@x230.lts> <877f0ln3dx.fsf@x230.lts> <83poed7i4t.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496996986 7795 195.159.176.226 (9 Jun 2017 08:29:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Etienne_Prud=E2=80=99homme?= , Stephen Leake , "rms@gnu.org" , Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 09 10:29:37 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJFIW-0001Og-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 10:29:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53338 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJFIa-0004JD-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:29:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJFGy-0003oD-IW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJFGx-0005r1-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::231]:34221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJFGr-0005mJ-Rs; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 04:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr0-x231.google.com with SMTP id g76so27212275wrd.1; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:27:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q6JfgUqdQB6wqXr9djbiVNA5mtM0ZPHrzNacRos1HeU=; b=PIFS47CMSFN+rKvLcE53/qhOkNDIgtEMLTChJe58DKGg1ylA8cKYigAyvk566+HnSn tSnNirdt/T1UxIBBiohUbPYL1lQDcDX2zojYNTz3vPO4bo5p4vI1YIUWzAZNEhit69KQ 8/AByXZ2luovpIGNw5yDTqTBZyVzl+834P0ebjigGNWP1pFJxLPUMkvveWuDzCjgJY+D Vm7Y8/z6i8dmW4qRzB6rBYowmq5ln5oz+Amu185PexVYqkOAFLsJsnSjWI5zjR+unbkM oO5j9X5LG+4YkCy+5yYIIP+Cg9kAcjKvYoNqO//z/OVtcBIdMpKCFiLxiljio4jrQ9CM ANLw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q6JfgUqdQB6wqXr9djbiVNA5mtM0ZPHrzNacRos1HeU=; b=tuCt0+BO6IPelVwjviRvUa2Rx3wIUF/L6V3bzHKPLEU+JyIXSqM83VmLi7wdDvSRup JcRDuNCAF74hVmWTacC98+UVAtBJ07/aSVO/088T8LvLjYWdfvsOkTI1rR4m1YZOx2/7 Y6rDMdPHXlucB7aY28taSn3/4rDRz2VJcCJQTi04VP46gc20KEJ5iCjmsoesTfHght8t mhsaSDlcgkrnPHBCbERHNF9uPZQd7ooZAdVm9TQ6pExoEoBEAqtVgakmFOss8K5UGSYx 2L4tdFIUjaiU9QgMMjhAFk+k9reOH1YeRImSwcvX1ewTq/9x/hF65Anru7lcRjDT7P/a rQrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCx7nIAiUFlNDaeV3xvbNmcH+ltkZrO+5AuubP9oUlBuv0ZqfBM cANfqciPzuU4W9Q6PoFM/ygNTMeosw== X-Received: by 10.223.128.200 with SMTP id 66mr5047402wrl.99.1496996870694; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.164.93 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 01:27:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83poed7i4t.fsf@gnu.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9O2aTtNmFhHU9eEpXrVOFf3yy_4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215539 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > And therein is my second issue: reading the Bash and the ELisp manuals > in Zeal, I'm presented with exactly the same contents as when I read > them in Emacs's Info. IOW, what I have in Zeal is an Info browser > without the index-searching facilities which make Info so efficient > for me. So for me, and especially in the context of Emacs, it makes > very little sense to talk about these browsers, because they seem to > give be a subset of what we already have in Info. Perhaps I'm missing > something important. The important thing you=E2=80=99re missing is availability of other, non-Texinfo documentation sets, in that same browser. Being able to browse all necessary documentation in one unified browser is big. Especially if that one browser can be invoked by pressing a single key in Emacs and will search the right docset(s) depending on your major mode.