From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs vs emacs -nw Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 16:41:48 +0700 Message-ID: References: <2F1B5934-A250-4A91-82DA-BE33CDF02DAE@gmail.com> <83efv7ftcz.fsf@gnu.org> <20170530183308.GA71827@breton.holly.idiocy.org> <04B0233B-9038-45E1-B406-B7C8D2C2B9AA@gmail.com> <13389382-bcae-0dd4-a8a5-c055edc503e4@orcon.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496223745 11446 195.159.176.226 (31 May 2017 09:42:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 09:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 31 11:42:20 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dG08w-0002YI-CS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 May 2017 11:42:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58125 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dG08z-00019C-VE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 May 2017 05:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dG08q-000188-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 May 2017 05:42:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dG08p-000164-Hj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 May 2017 05:42:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:36576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dG08p-00015Y-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 May 2017 05:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id 7so111712168wmo.1 for ; Wed, 31 May 2017 02:42:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4n+6VPQAKAjAG+I5XwYV/ZExKPloHzK3OhVCRFSaUk=; b=DIixzpDQL4Ar/K5U9NWtptTs1h1ZWCvzYgQTisJSCpt/i9sGJdWmR95dmm3nYV6H7d e5urOYBzBmrgV0U0VbkhpPOSr+Zfo5T/xFsqyUjGr8jkxjFd/CDPUIefl2HZmthoflma SBsh5fIDMoJWbnK3rW1SuurBkrCIHoDL5UwjoldSB4Ta6G2riY3XYe40DFWKm/X7V/La iS07uirVud9KxzUZbct6mt0TEo6QUEsJ9n1aQ6fcbBDtmQPhg51eVO6tftnUADRYjfH6 0SVi1fnqGdJ6SV+dSDSvPZCHRdEFJtcUZdgEtg80hFe4dX6fFYt0H7PrCG2ezWiLeqAi kfaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+4n+6VPQAKAjAG+I5XwYV/ZExKPloHzK3OhVCRFSaUk=; b=jNyk9wNBZxsBRdR8IYWxwXsGHTop1cBt1tkvx48w64IznydL+LYcX34cMMNcRGr8dM 87BYfYiBCrGrm1CRmWGIW0A5Jk1eOnPytAQ2ryyF4Ypr3p5WcHtzQWYOsj/fBOxOqm+T en2b89A6VI4lvgCU/ll3naEtSYl715OB3yf0Qko9exocDnT5CndRIlxo6dBx9e5XkL37 Ap7M9YDeqUsRDsP8cUH/rh5U5mQVPvLJkvDP+gVqU128Wr3NPhqmhefpVVxCktd7jAm4 41pf+w0SPUhi1kyR4KYTob/6tuZOFwZVLR8N6F+esy7l6sxj35mYYaU8IvKyjPC+knyG wi4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCpaYLwP3bYKfc/qWjfVdO2oWOWfjHJfz6P89nf5rJ0KP+V3U2G SCFtqR8oaV9/43Ia5tVlxIEKSa8kzQ== X-Received: by 10.28.55.69 with SMTP id e66mr4768443wma.16.1496223728736; Wed, 31 May 2017 02:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.164.93 with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2017 02:41:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 55N3UYuKe2qhU-QByuVN59MJRPM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215362 Archived-At: On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> Could you provide an example and/or a recipe to demonstrate the issue? > > =E2=80=A2 Open an org file with a few headers and different header levels= . > =E2=80=A2 Select a lower level header > =E2=80=A2 Hit M-left I believe this last step may be a bit unclear and misleading. Today, Meta is not a real key. You only get it via emulation from ESC or a modifier key, normally Alt on PCs. I don=E2=80=99t know the convention on M= ac. On X11/GNU/Linux, I get header promotion with Alt+Left but word navigation on Esc Left. > Expected result: > =E2=80=A2 the header is promoted > > Result in GUI Emacs (Aquamacs too) > =E2=80=A2 The cursor jumps to the beginning of the previous word