From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 10:31:49 +0600 Message-ID: References: <554C9356.5000204@gmail.com> <20150508125314086261755@bob.proulx.com> <87bnhuc177.fsf@mbork.pl> <55561B9E.4070101@arlsoft.com> <87y4kpfvct.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431750751 30865 80.91.229.3 (16 May 2015 04:32:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 04:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 16 06:32:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YtTlx-0003Yn-BJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 06:32:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33626 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtTlw-00007u-Df for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 00:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtTll-00007o-B9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 00:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtTlk-0008OE-77 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 00:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::235]:33201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtTlj-0008O1-Vo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2015 00:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: by lagr1 with SMTP id r1so67596175lag.0 for ; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=oJ/BUefy0c9jwLGfwDu5XiY8utc+WaNL78OEDRoRTRE=; b=BUUKwoYp9/3E41Ldb5N8VYtMBqNz/KjwTHmnQOhCruB/2CYDHKot1zYPOPg9IqTSmo WUAFkNYSz6zYLhGwJ0uFjMsWyXZDHI2oShE2EX2Ec9UgY1h7RBNgcqkY8/5TS+J+u2Fo gzAIHf05G9rEuyI80SZmcD69tIk9U5R+QdHXcpNAuzKwsLvqtdbDqfksQBdqTMTTj2Bt 6hxp4bFEDvQ/LzEUC23baUFV+Ipec44wgo39to2nsaJuGXj/Vpc0AnTjkkY86vpJbKuI DB3EztvmThqB0vXq6VfRNAq6/2ViPcAoFKaEbkX2Vw6XpF4eN8w7O/V/gxJyDvsRni6a sXCw== X-Received: by 10.152.246.34 with SMTP id xt2mr6226547lac.110.1431750730027; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.43.65 with HTTP; Fri, 15 May 2015 21:31:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y4kpfvct.fsf@debian.uxu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f8Dc8PAg2n1Reo6fkVndVSS3DVM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::235 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104461 Archived-At: On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Keyboard macros is poor-man's programming and while > they can be useful in many situations it is in many > more situations better to write proper Lisp. When one > gets some fluency with it it is not only infinitely > more powerful (obviously) but also faster, safer, and > less frustrating than keyboard macros. For recurring tasks, yes. But for a one-off highly repetitive task, a macro is cheaper to set up. Also, macros can be viewed as a gateway drug to programming.