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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279682 Archived-At: On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 22:22, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How do you work in Emacs with a keyboard that generates Cyrillic > characters? All the commands are in English, responses to prompts are > also in English, etc. Don't you switch the keyboard language to > English anyway? I do, when I need to type text in English. Shell commands count as English text. Single-key bindings in Dired, Ctrl+letter and Alt+letter sequences do not. In Gedit, the key Ctrl+S saves the document no matter whether pressing the key S would produce the character s or the character =D1=8B. > IOW, it sounds like the path to the "ideal world" is a tad longer than > just binding keys in Dired. In Emacs, it is. For historical terminal-related reasons.