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From: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
	Carson Chittom <carson@wistly.net>
Subject: Re: configurable means hard? [was: ... easier explanation how to setup gnus ...]
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:19:02 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP_d_8UjHBUmXifvi=Qc1+oY5MRTWsvSQjb-JE5eqSjmXd7+mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2e6aff2-bc60-40f9-841c-47683d9ccdfd@default>

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> Mouseover text can sometimes help describe what a menu item does.  For
> `New Frame', for instance, it could say "Open a new frame (window-manager
> window)" instead of just "Open a new frame".

Oh no! Now poor grandpa has to know about window managers. And now
Emacs explicitly calls two different things “windows”.

> But that probably won't help much for an item like `New Window Below'.
> I suppose it could add "(frame pane)" or "(pane)" after "window" in the
> help, but at some point this becomes too much.

For me, the point of too much is immediately when alternative
terminology is included in parentheses.

Why can’t we rename windows to panes and frames to windows?


> The terminology is a bit of a special case, however.  Once past the basic-terminology hurdle and the how-do-I-access-help hurdle, things go more
> smoothly.

Problem is, the user won’t read help. At least not for features they
expect to “just work”.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-14  5:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-13  2:54 What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus Don Saklad
2013-08-13  7:11 ` Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found] ` <mailman.3094.1376377917.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-13 14:55   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-13 15:41     ` Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3131.1376408540.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-13 16:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-28  9:49       ` Glen Stark
2013-09-02 11:44         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-09-02 13:20           ` Jambunathan K
2013-09-02 21:26           ` W. Greenhouse
2013-09-03 12:35             ` Richard Riley
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1212.1378157299.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-02 22:01             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-09-03  0:58               ` W. Greenhouse
2013-09-03  2:12             ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-03  2:44               ` W. Greenhouse
2013-09-03 12:36                 ` Richard Riley
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1233.1378176315.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-03  3:56                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-03 12:38                   ` Richard Riley
2013-09-03 14:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-09-03 16:44                     ` W. Greenhouse
2013-09-03 20:13                       ` Jambunathan K
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.1282.1378239114.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-09-04  3:40                         ` Rustom Mody
2013-09-02 13:55         ` Jambunathan K
2013-08-13 17:58 ` Carson Chittom
2013-08-13 19:01   ` configurable means hard? [was: ... easier explanation how to setup gnus ...] Drew Adams
2013-08-13 20:30     ` Carson Chittom
2013-08-13 21:01       ` Drew Adams
2013-08-14  5:19         ` Yuri Khan [this message]
     [not found]         ` <mailman.3178.1376457548.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-14  5:26           ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-14 14:05           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3159.1376425851.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-14 14:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-14 14:44         ` Drew Adams
2013-08-14 17:14         ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-16 18:40           ` Ken Goldman
     [not found]           ` <mailman.188.1376678430.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-17 10:59             ` Rustom Mody
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3146.1376420497.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-14  3:11     ` Jason Rumney
2013-08-13 20:17 ` What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus W. Greenhouse
     [not found] ` <mailman.3154.1376425093.12400.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-14  3:29   ` Rustom Mody

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