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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229640 Archived-At: On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 7:08 PM hw wrote: > Beginners may never have seen a floppy and only remote files. A 3.5 > vs. a 5.25" disk might mean nothing to them even when the disks are > clearly depicted. Yes. This is why some GTK icon themes no longer use the floppy disk for the Save icon. I don=E2=80=99t have a generic solution for character encodings and end-of-line conventions. Might just keep displaying them as text, but possibly spelled out in full (cp437, windows-1252, utf-8, instead of D, *, U) and moved to a less prominent position. > What do you use for remote files? Nothing yet, as remote editing is not a thing I do in Emacs often. U+1F5A7 THREE NETWORKED COMPUTERS =F0=9F=96=A7 seems fitting, though.