From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using punctuation in abbrev Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:59:15 +0700 Message-ID: References: <87vc5x3x5b.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87txlfhxx5.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87r4gh4whi.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370415577 941 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2013 06:59:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 06:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 05 08:59:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uk7h2-0002xa-8d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 08:59:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43909 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uk7h2-0004D9-01 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:59:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uk7go-0004Ab-IS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:59:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uk7gj-00024o-N6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:59:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]:54620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uk7gj-00024Z-HO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 02:59:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e11so970195wgh.26 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 23:59:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wo3qCxoVh3oakSw6tqs4cknjBO0IeiqWiV+HUNeQGcI=; b=KIN7QrIIUnJTmYHLHKHJEDKUD53zg8iCsiam2T61vkC1aPzE8xWAyHmOs4gtsVx+HC RDS4gwYDi1SLB6nLPXXYre80W+MhqYPjrtEhS7vV98SrZbIUxVMHK97RMnQ2psyZ+lWi ov+s6TZ1UySkEcOTfMQfr1VmcFLIkxbIPhaxGo7BIvSqGFgFdTWK5QT6l4zNYJQFQZHa HxkhUzhobB2OUDZSn3rkUnyg4uTGTxBt6OI+A52PLvanH9j/ZmAvS2/fMt9QhcMZ1MYV GcUGw4Oxj8Au/m9Z0h3aNNm+xL8DTtUd4Tl05So4biHy3CngFMBRghkIZUZNPVQxQP2Y k9Qw== X-Received: by 10.180.184.2 with SMTP id eq2mr4921153wic.50.1370415555989; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.216.72.71 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 23:59:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r4gh4whi.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> X-Google-Sender-Auth: GtcWN5poM3DvphzuwYlCef3AJs0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:91315 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Emanuel Berg wrot= e: > Yuri Khan writes: >> Because if I were OP I would want to have access to special >> characters all over the system, not just Emacs. > > Why? There is no reason to do programming and/or tech writing > outside Emacs, if Emacs is the place you normally do it. Also, > Emacs - with Elisp - gives you the tools to setup the execution of > such tasks. Because such things may need to be discussed with other people, and this involves an email client, a web browser, an instant messenger, or any combination of the above. Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware Emacs has solutions fo= r each of those, and no, I do not want to give up Firefox, Thunderbird and Gajim. That=E2=80=99s what I meant when I said I believe in an operatin= g system/environment outside Emacs.