From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri Khan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hork point in ~/.emacs: needing emacs.pdmp & other Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:59:33 +0700 Message-ID: References: <8463a064-a5b3-23c6-1589-a6cc5f899b95@mousecar.com> <83o8mvyqeg.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7snymee.fsf@gnu.org> <25d1778e-99c9-4d8e-faa2-c89b8e261ce8@mousecar.com> <83eenqzz4v.fsf@gnu.org> <831rjpzkj2.fsf@gnu.org> <3608372c-ddcf-c089-1b8a-e344340d591c@mousecar.com> <83v9h1xqut.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9101"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 21:00:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC65B-0002Gj-C8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 21:00:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC65A-0004zF-Dy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53482) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC64q-0004z7-5U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:59:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vs1-xe29.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::e29]:42298) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC64o-0007Ht-Jt; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:59:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vs1-xe29.google.com with SMTP id e14so1321348vsa.9; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H8Ju0EN00Wp/t4S747JbbVMEZDVcuK60XStHGtasa70=; b=ggMVAy+BM2Jv5s2QbRM2aOCy/2iB+CCtAqgf1mIx4D4iB26y1U6vV6vjHg4y+SK8Ga 1FN8Bp5zVkTd5m2lL7DVyINtb7z3jdIqtHOZwtF7kp/FYQWdf7VY8W5CzmtLc1cfDiQ1 fXf2+NoOcQ2P3DwHoad5KmxUlNeBMSPtBLqRZKzqUJXaxqIcK3hw8c7I3NNxY7uVy8oS DCCqFBE8SsajUnXCD5nqp1FDmS+J+RaxZH08N4NufGxSzFIu1ohdR6m7iRUESrgYLPcT wm5fL7lOkX2qgeXobTNV78m985WQiX3MNVT5dYc2ULjrHa0g2iuWc4Iloj7nSALqQpR3 GWsw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H8Ju0EN00Wp/t4S747JbbVMEZDVcuK60XStHGtasa70=; b=VI5GVNYxHxbdYQ9nv6CpNXZcWZdT5cMGwAd72fq12lvf1isIRgJ/EgZW0qB01RF7V2 KGwaBgWF3D0uODKP7VWw1EGsbOqCBntHfqxspz3KvwWjnNc67gRD2CLdO3rLAEmlndRY QI0ujIW21RQi6THSA2D6r++2I2K4nVB8bXV/lTVRAO3p68uSNluXxKmpTLbrJK+s+VuN IAjIakn6OMZdIq6K7RvIJhHwQT49wZei+mANLkXJeiPV4k1B4OMS7+3udiHXjsbDKHsx ImKjuZKZWP+KdbX0E0hldcEZOD06ztK54Tr3q/v7yqxArlnUvll5lNtsopeOYNb2KNy3 xLfw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Xd7mM/PfHiNAGQui++BeebEYdpmcz5VxZbEvyFog14flNfbBF L/n1e5K8elTgJDE6VMdhocBpditNnBB2Jy5yFOr5CAN4iWc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwihs4Iz5ZuQQPFlSPwqMSqbh0JwcnHwFW7hqRPg2p6/qAzc2L9wIrXaeT6qBvJJ2XNc+Efw2VWmdz3DD4UytY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f7cd:: with SMTP id a13mr1543397vsp.55.1598727584807; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 11:59:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83v9h1xqut.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::e29; envelope-from=yurivkhan@gmail.com; helo=mail-vs1-xe29.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. 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X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123855 Archived-At: On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 01:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10667896 Aug 20 20:20 emacs-gtk.pdmp > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10158064 Aug 20 20:20 emacs-nox.pdmp > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10656232 Aug 20 20:20 emacs-x11.pdmp > But these *.pdmp files were not in the RPM whose contents you've > shown. So where did they come from? I do not know about SUSE but Debian does a similar thing. Emacs variants compiled with or without GTK+ or X11 are distributed as separate packages, with the Emacs binary named /usr/bin/emacs-gtk, /usr/bin/emacs-nox, etc. Then, the mechanism called =E2=80=9Calternatives= =E2=80=9D sets up /usr/bin/emacs as a symlink to /etc/alternatives/emacs, which in turn is a symlink to /usr/bin/emacs-whatever. The Debian alternatives system makes it possible to declare a group of related links, e.g. so that emacs.pdmp is a symlink to a symlink to emacs-gtk.pdmp if and only if emacs is a symlink to a symlink to emacs-gtk. It seems the SUSE alternatives system is very similar; maybe SUSE packagers should add the .pdmp to the alternatives group for Emacs?