* Undoing yank-pop
@ 2013-06-12 1:58 Michael Heerdegen
2013-06-12 7:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-06-17 2:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2013-06-12 1:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Development
Hello,
I often do C-y M-y M-y ... like most of us, I think.
Currently, if you `undo' after that, each of the M-y's are undone
separately. This is not very useful and dangerous:
- You had already the text for each M-y inserted, so it is very
unlikely that you want one of the yanks when cycling backwards.
- You don't know when to stop! You have to be very careful so that
you don't undo stuff before yanking by accident. There is no visual
help for noticing that "border".
Don't I know the right setting - or could we improve that? I would
suggest that undo simply undoes until before the first yank.
Opinions? Does anyone like the current behavior?
Regards,
Michael.
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* Re: Undoing yank-pop
@ 2013-06-13 1:43 Kelly Dean
2013-06-13 22:04 ` Richard Copley
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From: Kelly Dean @ 2013-06-13 1:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Michael Heerdegen wrote:
>I often do C-y M-y M-y ... like most of us, I think.
>Currently, if you `undo' after that, each of the M-y's are undone
>separately.
[...]
>I would suggest that undo simply undoes until before the first yank.
I agree. I think if you put an undo boundary before yank, and before any change besides yank-pop that follows yank, but don't put one before yank-pop, then when undoing and redoing, it would act like the text insertion done by the last yank-pop was the only thing that happened.
Andreas Schwab wrote:
>You can always redo if you overshot.
Yes, but having to undo through all the yank-pop events in the first place is annoying when you only did them for the purpose of reviewing the last few items on the ring, and didn't intend to leave the text inserted. And if you overshoot while doing yank-pop, you don't need undo to go back anyway, since you can use a negative arg with yank-pop (which I do so often that I have a yank-pop-rev command that does that, with a dedicated key chord bound to it).
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* Re: Undoing yank-pop
2013-06-13 1:43 Kelly Dean
@ 2013-06-13 22:04 ` Richard Copley
2013-06-13 22:18 ` chad
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From: Richard Copley @ 2013-06-13 22:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kelly Dean; +Cc: Emacs Development
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On 13 June 2013 02:43, Kelly Dean <kellydeanch@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> >I often do C-y M-y M-y ... like most of us, I think.
> >Currently, if you `undo' after that, each of the M-y's are undone
> >separately.
> [...]
> >I would suggest that undo simply undoes until before the first yank.
>
> I agree. I think if you put an undo boundary before yank, and before any
> change besides yank-pop that follows yank, but don't put one before
> yank-pop, then when undoing and redoing, it would act like the text
> insertion done by the last yank-pop was the only thing that happened.
>
> Andreas Schwab wrote:
> >You can always redo if you overshot.
>
> Yes, but having to undo through all the yank-pop events in the first place
> is annoying when you only did them for the purpose of reviewing the last
> few items on the ring, and didn't intend to leave the text inserted. And if
> you overshoot while doing yank-pop, you don't need undo to go back anyway,
> since you can use a negative arg with yank-pop (which I do so often that I
> have a yank-pop-rev command that does that, with a dedicated key chord
> bound to it)
Uh huh. IMO there should be such a keychord by default and it should be
short and advertised.
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* Re: Undoing yank-pop
2013-06-13 22:04 ` Richard Copley
@ 2013-06-13 22:18 ` chad
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From: chad @ 2013-06-13 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs Development; +Cc: Richard Copley, Kelly Dean
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On 13 Jun 2013, at 15:04, Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, but having to undo through all the yank-pop events in the first place is annoying when you only did them for the purpose of reviewing the last few items on the ring, [...] (which I do so often that I have a yank-pop-rev command that does that, with a dedicated key chord bound to it)
>
> Uh huh. IMO there should be such a keychord by default and it should be short and advertised.
Maybe you'd be interested in browse-kill-ring
https://github.com/browse-kill-ring
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BrowseKillRing
Hope this helps,
~Chad
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