From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jordi_Guti=C3=A9rrez_Hermoso?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: DVCSes, bug trackers, and GNUness Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:49:21 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335286171 5077 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2012 16:49:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:49:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs development discussions Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 18:49:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SMivh-0006yL-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:49:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMivh-0000Aj-6r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:49:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMive-0000A5-65 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:49:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMivc-0007BV-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:49:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:53627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SMivc-00075U-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:49:24 -0400 Original-Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so650696yhr.0 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=k6fWCtexwcix0hoZypYFFHE+9JLmnV0UqLxzWIwGA7Y=; b=YSSr5DRG8BBu1spmXToBkUsUnh05AB6W+349WEnqKvQJpxeZWswFAmWWW2ygnlmeMb nbI/VDT4yT6QUJQzcf6gJntCv1PFxTObBIRFdLX9NPYBG11pA22SlSYWgu+aIMDSHvXB k2t3MD/t1oy857YbgsSHM+alx7qdZmNjg1WNYv1OQ9MzRNED+6c7ORB1Y0RvzvFjoJs5 9FkAQuiXww2EaIRmvncom2o9HNCXxP1XvN3RY+kjNJJU6GGeoFZFjHVlXyHdIMShZv/R e+bPjxSCKM0EqFuL3V6vHeJH7dCa1SaIWjTkIXiS4c6NTEiUiBadQJk7p73am2+2E9ig VRiw== Original-Received: by 10.50.149.132 with SMTP id ua4mr4000628igb.41.1335286161257; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.231.39.133 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:49:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6foXQrYL17NrTLf1uN3UBJmZHJ0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.213.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149972 Archived-At: So Emacs must use bzr because bzr is GNU, fine. I'm all for GNU standing united. But Emacs is using debbugs for bug tracking instead of the Savannah bug trackers, because Savannah doesn't have an email interface for manipulating bugs. Shouldn't we switch to Savannah and fix it? Isn't that what we're supposed to do about bzr? Why isn't there an executive decision to prefer the GNU package? I'm saying this because in Octave, another GNU package, we do use Savannah, and boy would I like to have it fixed. I'm working on doing just that by finishing the Python rewrite of Savane, and if email support is what it takes to stop using debbugs, I would very much like some help doing that. - Jordi G. H.