From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Axelsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:55:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y52dk82n.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjmtwqtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87mwitwmn5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqhx5t6s.fsf@gmail.com> <87sisl1cnc.fsf_-_@wanadoo.es> <8738klw5c1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390071357 345 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 18:55:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:55:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 19:56:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4b3r-0006nu-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:56:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43978 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4b3q-0008VK-NE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4b3m-0008Uj-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:55:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4b3l-0006VI-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ve0-x236.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236]:52533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4b3l-0006UQ-3l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:55:57 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id jy13so373618veb.13 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:55:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=CbmifOf2T+LIPydP6IPh8FaPgsUOakde1fPU/Lkqyyw=; b=in13xxi2VTdoRVX1AdCcYkqiLbDTjlSxe4NuLEW7qq2j9LkwP5Vy2FBYNjJEpeXJ9x G67em3gUHDLoJuyHZLI5S/9aEHQEByG3RlMu4J1wxMzVH6FSbhI+Za16LPlU0Bpls1Yc HgJxEu8gc2eII3FUBIewtC6Y//fAFedXlJWzv0o7RV/wx28+YqHLJy1eFFHJJ6t2uSl6 iLN3OUEa6RW9PBZR32HThdc/MJPR0QXjdQAKxQbEy7LM4DuWxn+Nz/x32GjeBLqemBm6 ZHQjXiNv88/z0w1KBsQ4t5zbdUS5clEIWAQw2KWAT1sOxZPR21kD8YAoJnhksytgJqY8 o7qA== X-Received: by 10.221.55.8 with SMTP id vw8mr4928521vcb.8.1390071356299; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:55:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.58.217.230 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:55:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8738klw5c1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168703 Archived-At: As a new Emacs user (well, I have tried several times before but always given up after a while), I'd really like to ask this: Cursor movement - I see in the documentation and all over the Internet stated that you should use the default movement shortcuts because they are much more efficient than the arrow key bindings. Do people really find this true? OK, They are somewhat mnemonic, but efficient? Especially on keyboards missing a right Ctrl key I find them pretty awkward. Maybe I should try EVIL and see if that makes me more efficient. -- Sven Axelsson ++++++++++[>++++++++++>+++++++++++>++++++++++>++++++ >++++<<<<<-]>++++.+.++++.>+++++.>+.<<-.>>+.>++++.<<. +++.>-.<<++.>>----.<++.>>>++++++.<<<<.>>++++.<----.