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From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opportunistic GC
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:02:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOqdjBfhV2GLw5ANO_oRd6vBmN9U+rPzUZ8x6s5b9obWMdJUhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <838s6xsnsv.fsf@gnu.org>

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 2:49 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 10:44:06 +0000
> > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >
> > And, yes, we should keep the mark bits separate from the data so we
> > could avoid unsharing an entire page because a single object in it
> > survives GC.
>
> Ah, so not really an easy change after all.

For conses, it's easy. Instead of keeping the mark bits in the cons
block, we keep a pointer to the mark bits in the cons block, and
allocate the mark bits separately and (hopefully) on a different page.

> And how do you propose to keep the mark bits separately and still
> maintain coherency between the object and its bits?

Just as we do for pdumper, which already does this. In fact, I'm
pretty sure it was Daniel who said a while ago that he wants to extend
that to all GCable objects, not just those that live in the pdmp.

AFAIK, we never go from mark bit to object, only from object to mark
bit. And that would simply be behind a level of pointer indirection.

In each Emacs process, there'd still be a 1-to-1 relation between
objects and mark bits. It would just so happen that there are two
Emacs processes, one of which only checks which objects are
unreachable in it and tells the other one about them.

Pip



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08  3:35 Opportunistic GC Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08  7:20 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  8:26   ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08  9:02     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  9:51       ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 10:44         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:37           ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 12:27             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 18:06               ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 18:24                 ` Concurrent GC via fork (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-09  8:10                   ` Concurrent GC via fork martin rudalics
2021-03-10 20:35                 ` Opportunistic GC Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:38           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-08 12:55             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 14:06             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 14:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:02             ` Pip Cet [this message]
2021-03-08 15:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:39                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:35                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:11                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 14:01   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 15:04     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 15:52       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 16:14         ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:18           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 16:40             ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 17:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:25             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  7:55                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  8:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  9:03                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11 10:11                         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11 11:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09  6:22           ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-09  8:11             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10  5:52               ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-08 14:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 14:57     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09 13:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:21         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  8:06             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:03   ` Concurrent GC via `fork` (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:25     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:37       ` Concurrent GC via `fork` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 19:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-10 17:18   ` Opportunistic GC Matt Armstrong
2021-03-10 19:38     ` Pip Cet
2022-07-05  1:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-05 13:49     ` T.V Raman

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