From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
To: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
Cc: 36370@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
bug-gnulib@gnu.org
Subject: bug#36370: 27.0.50; XFIXNAT called on negative numbers
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:30:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOqdjBeiMno7nGKwk7SSZQob+CTyG39KRTM9EEebq7NQavLR-Q__42603.2044853613$1561908743$gmane$org@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2515002.Q0mBYvUW8C@omega>
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 10:31 AM Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org> wrote:
> Pip Cet wrote:
> > I would like to state that the current assume does
> > behave very badly when combined with -fno-inline-small-functions
> > -fno-inline.
>
> Since we can't address this limitation through an acceptable change
> to the 'assume' macro, we need to address it through documentation.
I agree. There's a limitation bad enough for me to consider it a bug
in current GCC, and even if that's lifted tomorrow, it wouldn't be
backported so it would be quite a while until I'd ask you to
reconsider the matter.
> > marking it
> > as __attribute__((always_inline)) is problematic because it might
> > directly contradict what the programmer was trying to achieve by
> > passing -fno-inline.
>
> __attribute__((always_inline)) exists precisely to make a distinction
> between functions where inlining is usually desirable vs. functions
> where inlining is essential.
Indeed. In this case, it's usually desirable but not essential for the
correctness of the program, IMHO. I understand you disagree.
> We don't need to warn against the uses
> of __attribute__((always_inline)) -- confusing behaviour in the debugger
> etc. -- becauses these drawbacks are already well-known.
I disagree completely. There's no warning in the GCC documentation for
the attribute.
> As a user of the 'assume' macro, I want a definitive statement about what
> I need to provide so that the macro works in the sense of improved performance.
> A statement about "often" is too vague.
I agree.
> How about this proposed patch?
>
> diff --git a/lib/verify.h b/lib/verify.h
> index f8e4eff..ed1ba19 100644
> --- a/lib/verify.h
> +++ b/lib/verify.h
> @@ -261,7 +261,10 @@ template <int w>
>
> /* Assume that R always holds. This lets the compiler optimize
> accordingly. R should not have side-effects; it may or may not be
> - evaluated. Behavior is undefined if R is false. */
> + evaluated. The behavior is undefined if R is false.
> + If you want the use of this macro to improve, not deteriorate,
> + performance, R should not contain function calls except to functions
> + that are declared 'inline __attribute__((__always_inline__))'. */
My suggestion would be "Assume that R always holds. This lets the
compiler optimize accordingly. Behavior is undefined if R is false,
fails to evaluate, or has side effects. Performance will suffer if R
contains function calls that are not inlined at compile time."
That would describe the API as I understand you and Paul think it
always has been; I think it describes a drastically stricter API than
what the old comment did. As a reminder, my starting point was that I
wanted to make the API more lenient. So, obviously, I disagree with
the API change but it is more important that there's consensus on what
the API actually is than it is to have a good API.
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-25 5:36 bug#36370: 27.0.50; XFIXNAT called on negative numbers Pip Cet
2019-06-27 1:10 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27 6:16 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 8:28 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27 13:17 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 19:38 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-27 19:56 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 21:13 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <5284eb58-3560-da42-d1d1-3bdb930eae49@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-27 21:37 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-27 23:45 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <2715311.ceefYqj39C@omega>
2019-06-28 0:04 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-28 11:06 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 12:14 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <8979488.cRkkfcT1mV@omega>
2019-06-28 12:29 ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-28 13:51 ` Pip Cet
[not found] ` <CAOqdjBfS99UpLZ-qLe4=FMXMsr+T3LUvJEsf_gfmF6wwLbqgOw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-28 17:46 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-28 19:11 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <a293f2fe-99b3-3776-f27b-35e3a93d1d34@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-28 19:15 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 19:56 ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-28 21:08 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-29 5:41 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <87168b28-192b-6666-e9b6-9cdc2ed3917a@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-29 6:48 ` Pip Cet
[not found] ` <CAOqdjBfcNbXFw3Fb0wgRR10PNbkJQ+88ObE9KEghLSb-ptdrbA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-29 17:31 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <791ae316-3a6f-605a-0da5-874fe3d224c5@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-30 9:21 ` Pip Cet
[not found] ` <11002295.LrvMqknVDZ@omega>
2019-06-28 21:07 ` Pip Cet
2019-06-28 23:30 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <2067160.1HRgjLhtDS@omega>
2019-06-29 5:40 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-29 5:44 ` Pip Cet
[not found] ` <CAOqdjBcNA4mDiwsd_jbeePGMdUwPvkFCNdgtZvmiQnYmJNR3pA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-29 10:31 ` Bruno Haible
[not found] ` <2515002.Q0mBYvUW8C@omega>
2019-06-29 17:11 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <99bacb9f-1192-1315-85d7-5ab4924dfef8@cs.ucla.edu>
2019-06-29 17:48 ` Bruno Haible
2019-06-30 15:30 ` Pip Cet [this message]
[not found] ` <CAOqdjBeiMno7nGKwk7SSZQob+CTyG39KRTM9EEebq7NQavLR-Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-06-30 15:45 ` Bruno Haible
2019-07-02 23:39 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-01 1:46 ` Richard Stallman
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