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charset=UTF-8 On 7 August 2014 03:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:05:33 +0100 > > From: Reuben Thomas > > Cc: 18205@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > If "_emacs" is to be supported, surely other similar patterns should > > be added for other dot files? > > Which patterns are those? > For example, the patterns for bash's dot-files. > Why do you think we support _emacs for DOS and Windows? > I'm not sure why you're asking me, you're the DJGPP maintainer! If you meant it as an exercise, then I'd say: I have no idea where we support it on Windows, where, post-Win 3.x (which we don't support), ".emacs" is a valid filename. I understood that DJGPP had long filename support too, but maybe that's not universal? In which case, not only "_emacs", but other GNU dotfiles should surely be supported with a leading "_"? In other words, it looks like a quick hack to support the most commonly-edited Emacs file that would suffer from this problem. I can't tell whether it's still needed, and if it is, it should be extended systematically. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --001a11c237c6bc7a10050008dc48 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 August 2014 03:51, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrot= e:
> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:05:33 +0100
> From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
> Cc:
18205@debbugs.gnu.org=
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> If "_emacs" is to be supported, surely other similar pattern= s should
> be added for other dot files?

Which patterns are those?

For exa= mple, the patterns for bash's dot-files.
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Why do you think we support _emacs for DOS and Windows?

I'm not sure why you're asking me, you= 're the DJGPP maintainer! If you meant it as an exercise, then I'd = say: I have no idea where we support it on Windows, where, post-Win 3.x (wh= ich we don't support), ".emacs" is a valid filename.

I understood that DJGPP had long filename support too, but maybe = that's not universal? In which case, not only "_emacs", but o= ther GNU dotfiles should surely be supported with a leading "_"?<= br>
In other words, it looks like a quick hack to support the mo= st commonly-edited Emacs file that would suffer from this problem. I can= 9;t tell whether it's still needed, and if it is, it should be extended= systematically.
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